Sorry Saga - “It’s actually quite funny people thinking they know more than they actually do”

The Hillsborough 96 have finally gotten their deserved justice after waiting 28 years.

Keep fighting the good fight J34.

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Love your work John!

Read between the lines " He manipulated the information To get the outcome he wanted".

Serial manipulator of the highest order and untrustworthy is Gil.

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■■■■ U Asada‏ @CharlieDons 6h6 hours ago
ummmm


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Lorraine‏
@lorrainebomber

Replying to @CharlieDons @stabbytherabbit and 3 others

Declared on DCF, informed club doctor, phone call to @anti_doping ?

The hypocrisy of ASADA is absolutely astounding

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Michelle Payne gets 4 weeks for testing positive for a banned drug; Hugh Bowman got 6 weeks for the same drug ( WADA- banned); Cronulla got 3 matches for admitting to a number of banned drugs ( supported by the Weap’s evidence) ; Essendon players got 12 months for not admitting to a drug for which they had not tested positive , no confirmed evidence by anyone as to supply. They are obviously in the wrong sport.

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Interesting series of snippets here:

WADA didn’t bother try to establish which thymosin was used.

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Interesting series of snippets here:

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Interesting series of tweets here:

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Eddie’s quote above is so Trump: “no one, no one, gets tested more bigly than we do”.

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The thought of Dean Robinson working with an AFL club again is disturbing, writes Mark Robinson

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Mark Robinson, 29 June 2017, Herald Sun

DON’T know what’s more disturbing: The AFL leaving the door ajar for Dean Robinson to make a possible return to AFL or people not caring either way.

Revelations in the Herald Sun this week that the door was not slammed shut on Robinson ever returning to clubland once again raises questions about his hands-on involvement in the Essendon drug scandal, why he was paid a $1 million settlement and why he was not prosecuted by either the AFL or ASADA.

Even the most amateur of sleuths — and apparently not the professionals within the AFL and ASADA — would have red flags about everything that happened involving Robinson.

Why did Robinson escape charges when he and Stephen Dank were in charge of the drugs program?

Why did get a $1 million payout after issuing a host of Supreme Court subpoenas against several AFL and Essendon officials, including Andrew Demetriou, Gillon McLachlan, Elizabeth Lukin, Ian Robson and David Evans?

What happened with Robinson and former Gold Coast player Nathan Bock and alleged injections with a banned substance?

Now the AFL hasn’t ruled out re-registering Robinson.

The footy world has moved on, and even Essendon wants it over, but that doesn’t mean all is forgotten, let alone forgiven.

It is outrageous that James Hird was suspended for 12 months and had his reputation trashed when Robinson, who was in charge of the supplements regimen and who had Dank reporting to him, escaped the same penalty.

Re-read the following from the Herald Sun: “Robinson agreed to give information to ASADA just days after the scandal hit. There was no formal agreement for immunity, but Robinson helped investigators on the basis of an ‘understanding’.”

We should know more about the “understanding”.

The AFL and ASADA were looking for anyone with information and Robinson was able to help. He also offered startling information about his time at the Suns.

Robinson told ASADA investigators that Bock visited his Gold Coast home where he gave him the banned substance CJC-1295 in a green cooler bag packed in late 2010.

Robinson claimed Dank had told him the drug was not banned and Dank has since confessed to giving CJC-1295 to Bock. The Suns were run by the AFL at the time.

Bock also escaped ASADA prosecution, while it’s known 34 Essendon players were banned for 12 months, despite there being documented evidence that not all 34 players took “Thymosin”, the drug that brought them all down.

Yes, it’s old news and the lethargy surrounding the drugs scandal is apparent. But it doesn’t mean justice and truth should be ignored.

Robinson got off free with a million large and now the AFL says: “All club officials must be registered and approved by the AFL and Mr Robinson would be subject to the same processes as any other person.”

It ain’t right

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Seems the horse racing industry adopts its own doping rules, for jockeys as well as horses and does not follow WADA rules or systems of categorisation. The list of banned substances for jockeys is based on health and safety, including safety of all riders in a race.
The list for Victoria, established jointly by the Jockeys Association, Racing Analytical Services and The RV doctor, ( Zimmerman) , is relatively simple in categorisation and provides guidance on brand names, as well as supplements which may contained banned substances.
interestingly, it lists the drug used by Michelle Payne - phentermine - as banned because of its appetite suppressant properties, whereas WADA lists it as an S6 stimulant (RV has a separate list of stimulants). WADA allows for TUE exemptions for that substance, whereas the VRC would be unlikely to grant a TUE above a certain tolerance because of the effect on riding skills.
Overall, the sports-specific racing industry approach seems to one of delivering integrity to the athlete.

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How can they stop him, he has no convictions against him for banned supplements. In fact he received a weighty payout , an MBA and a good position at one of the top accounting firms in Melbourne. How can the AFL refuse him if he wants to work within the AFL’s ranks again? Probably end up at AFL House.

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I disagree with you, she will go down for it.

Tall poppy syndrome. Social media giving her hell currently. Almost as bad as some of the things said about the Hird Family. I am truly disgusted at the way people think have the right to be judge and jury without any idea of circumstances and on very little information.

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What does an “understanding” mean? Does it mean, one million dollars, an MBA and a good position with well known accountants in Melbourne and no conviction recorded???

Can Ben McDevitt and Gillon McLaughlin please explain, in detail, exactly what a hand shake deal not in writing meant???

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Robinson: We did no differently at EFC than we did at GC (on the kids) and at Geelong (3 flags), oh and Gary Ablett Jnr AFL best player golden child has been using my techniques the whole time also.

You want to go after me I spill the beans on it all

AFL: Nothing is to happen to Robinson ok ASADA, we will help you nail Essendon in any way we can. If you don’t we are pulling out of using ASADA for testing and 3 quarters of your funding is gone.

ASADA: Ok we have an “understanding”. Leave GC, Bock and Robinson alone. Scapegoat 34 innocent players and Hird. Better for our stats & credibility anyway over 1 rodeo clown & 1 retired player.

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yeh

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Phentermine is a prescription- only substance. She got it on prescription from a doctor treating her for a sports injury. No cover-up or intent to cheat. Her fault relates to riding while the substance was still in her system and the potential risk to other riders. Nothing to do with performance enhancement.

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Agree with littlehirdy. I ask all Blitzers to send email/tweets of encouragement and support to Mick Warner and Robbo for their recent articles on Robinson and Bock issue.

Editors want stories that sell newspapers and they are aware of the “saga fatigue” factor. You may seek solace from being able to express views on Blitz with many likeminded Bombers but we need help from those who have a public profile, who can keep the injustices in the face of their readers. Fortunately there are still people out there who respond positively to a simple “well done” or a pat on the back.

Keep up the fight.

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Could someone post Mick’s and Robbo’s email addresses?

They definitely want him at AFL House. He’s an integral part of the AFL succession plan.

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HS article. Can’t get past paywall. I imagine this is more Dank talking loud and saying nothing.

Dank offers to come clean to ASADA

BANNED sports scientist Stephen Dank has contacted ASADA to offer information over Nathan Bock’s alleged use of a prohibited substance at the Gold Coast Suns.