Test your IQ (again)

[handypoint]

So I got the man is an orphan.

[Preliminary_Point2]

@BLOODSTAINED_DEVILS

But everyone knows that a Tree falling in a Forest really does of course make a sound regardless of whether anyone hears it or not,… right?

Not really

A tree falling makes vibrations

You need the person to convert it into a sound with an ear.

You can’t have perception(which sound is) without a preceptor. The physical act allways exists, the perception of that physical act doesn’t.

[wimmera1]

Which you’ve already covered with ‘and nobody heard it.’
So the ‘riddle’ is, if something made a noise and nobody heard it, did anyone hear it?

[Vinnie_D]

@BLOODSTAINED_DEVILS

But everyone knows that a Tree falling in a Forest really does of course make a sound regardless of whether anyone hears it or not,… right?

No. Because sound is something experienced. You need a hearing device (ears) plus the sound vibrations to create the reality of sound. Sound does not exist without those two components just like a TV show won’t be heard without tuning in. A radio probably would have been a better metaphor.

[Preliminary_Point2]

Does the sight of the dark side of the moon exist?

[Vinnie_D]

@wimmera1

Which you’ve already covered with ‘and nobody heard it.’
So the ‘riddle’ is, if something made a noise and nobody heard it, did anyone hear it?

Here’s a novel suggestion, try having a discussion without distorting and misquoting. All of what you just purported that I said is bollocks…and you know it.

[BLOODSTAINED_DEVILS]

So if no one sees the Lightning flash that starts the fire, … there was no Lightning?

The sound as we know a sound to be is always made regardless of anyone being there to hear it. And regardless of knowing that a sound is just energy vibrating in air creating waves.

If it does that, it creates sound, and if you were there and not deaf, YOU would hear it.

Now the sound of one hand clapping is definitely however, silence.

[wimmera1]

I’m summarising your riddle.

If you’re making a point about what the technical definition of sound is, then I think there are clearer ways to do it.

[Preliminary_Point2]

@BLOODSTAINED_DEVILS

So if no one sees the Lightning flash that starts the fire, … there was no Lightning?

No there is allways lightning

But there’s isn’t allways a ‘sight’ of the lightening. As sight doesn’t exist independently of an eye. No eye, no sight.

[Vinnie_D]

@Preliminary_Point2

@BLOODSTAINED_DEVILS

But everyone knows that a Tree falling in a Forest really does of course make a sound regardless of whether anyone hears it or not,… right?

Not really

A tree falling makes vibrations

You need the person to convert it into a sound with an ear.

You can’t have perception(which sound is) without a preceptor. The physical act allways exists, the perception of that physical act doesn’t.

Great stuff, Preliminary.

[wimmera1]

No, it’s cl-
The other hand is the -ap.

Also,

Whats the sound of one hand clapping?

[Vinnie_D]

@BLOODSTAINED_DEVILS

The sound as we know a sound to be is always made regardless of anyone being there to hear it.

100% incorrect, my friend.

[wimmera1]

The sound still exists in potentia.

[BLOODSTAINED_DEVILS]

Rightio, leave you to it.

[BLOODSTAINED_DEVILS]

If there’s no one or no being around to hear the generated sound, … do you reckon a recording device would then not pick it up and record it?

Of course it would, ergo, the sound occurred regardless of the presence of ear drums.

Now I’ll leave you to it …

[Preliminary_Point2]

yes but you’ve introduced a listening device so now sound is possible.

[theDJR]

@Vinnie_D

@BLOODSTAINED_DEVILS

The sound as we know a sound to be is always made regardless of anyone being there to hear it.

100% incorrect, my friend.

Read the first sentence:

Sound

[BLOODSTAINED_DEVILS]

No,… “Perception” of the sound is possible.

It ALWAYS exists.

[wimmera1]

Again, it’s a discussion over the definition of ‘sound.’
A lexical debate and nothing more.

[Vinnie_D]

@wimmera1

The sound still exists in potentia.

Sound still exists in potentia, as you put it, or as I would say, in the form of sound waves. But without ears anywhere in the vicinity to pick up and interpret those waves into real sound, as we know it, you get sweet nothing in terms of the experience of sound. FACT.