I hope we don’t trade it ahead of time. On draft night, there could be a good player that slides to our spot and clubs might be desperate to get them.
Twomey was talking about it today and I think he is right in saying that if we try and do it on the night we make ourselves a desperate seller, and other clubs will likely take advantage of that by offering unders.
I prefer we plan ahead and get organised by trading it now, rather than be reactive and nervous on the night.
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Armstrong at # 9, yes please.
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I really don’t think we need to be jumping at shadows. We should obviosuly contingency plan but I’m pretty confident that Kako won’t be bid ahead of our pick. I want the pick this year. Lindsay pls.
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Well that’s the other part of it, maybe we are jumping at shadows?
I think you can get equivalent value of pick 9 by trading it in advance, while protecting yourself against scenarios that may or may not happen. It all comes down to intel.
I don’t think, as it stands, we could say with absolute confidence that a Kako bid won’t come before our pick.
Personally, I hope we try and move up the order. Whatever we do I don’t think we should be trying to do it on the night.
Dont see it this way, clubs are desperate to get into that area of the draft, more chance we get overs then under on the night IMO. Clubs will be ringing us constantly
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That may well be true, but it is still a risk.
I think we’ve got a greater risk of trading it now, giving up something we don’t need to and the bid coming in after our pick anyway.
Hopefully the club has already made arrangements before draft night that can be triggered in the event of an early bid.
It all just feels like posturing. There’s so much top end talent better than Kako in the draft, would a club really risk losing access just to play mind games?
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Depends on the bidding clubs needs. There are certainly plausible scenarios where it would be advantageous for a club to bid early on Kako.
I don’t think we lose anything by trading pick 9 in advance for the right deal, that value gets retained in whatever we end up trading pick 9 for.
Yep, on the night the pick gets attached to a particular player as opposed to a random number in an order (as happened with us paying a seconder round to move up one spot from Caddy). If Kako is bid early, you’d suspect that there will be someone left on the board who another club rates, say, top 5 who they’d pay a decent price for.
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That’s why as i said further up, you make the clubs believe you have more than one contingency and therefore you say best bid wins. If a club thinks they’re the only contingency, of cause they will low ball us at the time knowing we’re on the clock.
Some of cal’s thinking, I’m glad he isn’t our list boss.
I don’t think kako will get bid on anyway. Since when does someone go from 15 all year to suddenly top 10 off the back of months of injury at the end of the season, it’s a bluff outta spite.
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I just don’t like making those decisions on the fly like that, there are far too many variables, hopes and assumptions that could be mitigated against.
Maybe it’s just me.
I doubt spite comes into it. But if someone wants our first rounder (Melb/StK apparently are scrambling for another) it makes sense to plant the seed of doubt.
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Yeah maybe not spite, i just assumed some clubs would be sookie we got handed a free nga gift before the points system changes next year. Melbourne missed out on mac andrew, st kilda and their nuffie president are salty about the whole system.
I’m sure they are annoyed but they are hardly going to bid out of spite (where they risk having to take a player ahead of where they rate him).
Yeah they would only pick him if they actually wanted him. Given he is the best small fwd in the market, and clubs love small fwds atm and plenty have a need there, I have no doubt an early bid is a good chance.
It does happen, it did last year. It’s when a club knows the other club will take the nga no matter what, but usually it’s a vengeful thing via previously unfriendly trade discussions. I think it was the bulldogs in the teens did it, can’t exactly remember which club it was though.
Anyhow, it’s why it’s important that we portray that we’ll let kako slide if he isn’t bid on where we rate him.
Last year. Caleb Windsor going into the draft was rated outside of the top 10 (12-15 was the consensus til late) and went at 7. Who bid on him?
That’s right, Melbourne.
I would say that’s a reason why there’s some unease here.
That being said, I am in the camp bluff as well.
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They didn’t bid on him. They picked him. He wasn’t NGA/FS.
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