The bid for him came at 12
There is no alternate reality
That’s what happened
If the decision was predicated on that, it was a failed gamble.
Close to fact?
When actual… real… what happened… disagrees?
Don’t drink the kool aid.
Fanciful.
He got bid on at 12, that’s where he was rated, nobody had him inside the 10 until Melbourne walked along with their magic beans.
Played like a piano.
If you think clubs trading picks doesn’t affect where players get taken, you’re an idiot
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I worry greatly for the future of mankind.
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in A general sense maybe
In the specific instance here, it’s clearly not a factor
Either melbourne/St K/Rich wanted him (pre pick 9) or they didn’t.
They didn’t
Sorry
that is exactly how it works, good job
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Go on…
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Players tied to clubs always slide if there isn’t an early pick to wipe out & benefit from, which is why clubs always trade those picks out.
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We also did a pick swap with St K early which may have included an agreement to not bid.
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Amazing how having a list manager that isn’t a total prick helps facilitate deals that are beneficial for the club
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AKA soft clubs get bluffed by that threat into trading out.
Nobody’s yet been able to explain the motivation for the clubs who theoretically would’ve bid.
Nor can they.
In your magical world that seems to exclude any form of nuance whatsoever.
What would you have done this draft?
Completely excluding Kako, I’d say trading pick 11 and a f3 for a f1, 2 2nds, 2 3rds and a 4th pretty good business.
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Keeping clubs accountable, limiting the leg up they get from their NGA.
It’s not rocket science.
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as I say
There’s no motivation for any club to do it
I would’ve held firm with 9 (11)
Bird in the hand
And what would you have done to get the rest of the points we needed?
And then how would you have filled the rest of our list spots? Picks at the very back of the draft? Give up even more future capital to trade back in?
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On talent Kako is about a pick 14 from most reports. There’s two reasons to bid early on an academy / FS player: needs or draft order shenanigans.
The needs angle didn’t change with us trading out pick 9, but the shenanigans angle definitely did. There was no longer a high pick exposed to an early bid. That meant the clubs ahead of us had no upside in bidding early, so they didn’t.
You can’t say that because this timeline didn’t have an early bid that the same would happen if we had kept the pick. The other parties would have made different decisions with the board set up differently.
And even if we had taken the pick to the draft, that’s a huge risk. Again, there’s no real downside long term in protecting a pick with a 1 season delay. There’s a huge downside in burning that pick on the night. So this isn’t a big problem, the list build will be largely unchanged over a 5 year period by this delay.
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