yep fair play, we’re going to absolutely hammer the 40s and 50s tomorrow and in next year’s draft
Masterful
All these “I’d have held my nerve” spruikers never have an answer for how to match the points after using pick 9.
We would have had to decimate next years hand. Look how hard it was for teams to trade into this year. Let alone if we’d waited until tonight and they had us over a barrel.
So please, give us the run down on how you’d have pulled this rabbit, and where from?
So you’ve got no answer (and don’t even seem to realise what picks we now hold)
Figured as much
Expect for Richmond had they wanted to bid at 7 therefore removing our pick nine which would have been ten by then and they would have access to a player rated one pick higher at 12
Then there’s the other way in which had we not done the deal with Melbourne they would have got pick 13 from Gold Coast through the trade period and would have bid at 6 for the exact same reason
That pick 28 would be handy getting a tall in right now… i know it would have been swallowed up if we kept it with Kako points.
Their F1st was on the table for every club up until Richmond accepting it. Though not sure what they wanted back from Sydney.
I actually think this is the best draft positioning that the club has done since the advent of future and live trading.
- we protected against the RISK of burning pick 9 and got an absolute mass of later picks.
- we exchanged extra picks (we had too many) for a broad move up the board.
- we exchanged 28 (our best 2nd rounder which was going to get burned) for another broad move up the order.
We came out with Kako, a future first and 3 reasonable 2nd round picks in a deep draft from a pretty weak starting hand.
Yeah, I’d almost think it would have been something like f1/f2 for Sydney’s f1 plus the Whitlock pick.
Will likely never know, I just doubt Sydney’s f2 would have been enough. But then they are pretty crazy
This is the thing though. They never had an upside
Yes it blasts our pick away but the bidding club doesn’t get any significant advantage from that.
And all this in a draft rated very highly for depth (rather than standout talent).
Definitely a change from the old ways.
Richmond certainly gets an advantage.
1, 6, 10, 11, 18, 20, 23, 24
Bidding on Kako at 6 gives them:
1, 7, 9, 10, 17, 19, 22, 23
In your world why do any teams bid on players they know will be matched?
Brisbane were going to match Ashcroft no matter what… Why bother bidding?
What would have been interesting is how we would have gone about getting the necessary points if Durham doesn’t kick that winning behind against Freo and we headed into this draft with pick 5 (i.e. 100% safely inside a Kako bid). Traded a future second and third for a second round pick this year or something?
Yeah, I reckon we’d have been using future picks to bring in some later fairy dust points.
As I pointed out to him in another post so would have Melbourne as they would have got gold coasts 13 so the same would apply for them to bid which is ultimately probably why we did the deal with them plus the swag of picks that goes with it

In your world why do any teams bid on players they know will be matched?
They want them to play football for them.
Granted it’s a Hail Mary, but every year these kids slide, rather than get bid early.
Nice selective quoting.
I don’t believe you’re serious here, well played.
There’s a reason they slide. Maybe look at what their destination clubs do with their early picks.

Heaps still on the board
Shanahan
Gerryn
Whitlock
Barratt
Dodson
Mraz
Ough
Moraes
Day-Wicks
Alger
Sims
Davis
Gross
ClarkeI’d be shocked if we couldn’t get a couple of decent players with 37 and 39.
Assuming we don’t trade up, with 9 other picks before ours you can pretty much bank on Shanahan & Whitlock being gone.
Ideally I’d love another goal-kicker like Gross/Alger/Dolan, or some more outside run like Moreas if he slides, or Davis. Sims as the next best kew fwd, Gerryn a good option there as well, or Clarke as a mid-sized defender with footskills who can run.
That’s 10 players there who’d be good gets imo, with only Port having a pick before our next one.
As if any club is going to have 19 picks in the first 20 like that…
Granted that is a pick/points benefit for RFC and their 9 squillion picks this year, but I’m still not sure I actually ever see a club potentially passing over their preferred option at 6 to improve their pick 10/11 ?
Would you?
I am surprised by how expensive it is to get from the 2025 draft into the 2024 draft.
When we did the Melbourne trade, it was a good stepping stone, but I doubt we could have known EXACTLY how difficult it would be to move picks into 2025 AND THEN BACK AGAIN.
Look at GC now…they have 3 x F1 and an F2…were they expecting to trade back into this draft? Because their picks look like this: