So if Hughes was to make runs against RSA, you’d potentially drop him against India for the following series? I doubt that the selectors want to have a horses-for-courses approach to batting. For the reserve bats on tour that would be understandable, but they should be striving to find a long term replacement.
I would seriously consider it in places like India that are so differant from other places. It was only 15-20 years ago that people scoffed at having seperate ODI and test teams with differant skippers and we have already seen tests teams with extra left or right handed batters to counteract certain bowlers so it seems logical to me that the next advancement of the game is to pick specialist teams for various venues.So if Hughes was to make runs against RSA, you'd potentially drop him against India for the following series? I doubt that the selectors want to have a horses-for-courses approach to batting. For the reserve bats in your that would be understandable, but they should be striving to find a long term replacement.
I remember before Boof was made coach he was astounded that D Hussey wasnt picked for India because of his ability to play spin and Boof has definately stated several times since being named coach that he would be looking to pick batters comfortable against spin next time we go to India
Batsmen typically don’t react well to being rotated in and out. They tend to perform better when given extended runs in the team. Maybe you’re right and they will go down that path, but there are plenty of examples of batsmen turning it around in conditions that historically don’t suit their game when they are confident and in form. Hayden was supposedly not up to playing Indian conditions.
In reality they rotated batsmen/all rounders in a horses for course manner for the Indian tour last year. I was actually impressed with Henriques form over there. To me Hughes in South Africa makes sense. He made his first hundred over there and their spin bowling stocks are so low James Muirhead would probably be in the test team. Personally I don't have a problem with him facing up and handling Steyn et al.
If Hughes is unlucky on figures how would you describe Marcus North's non selection? He leads the shield aggregate and averages, 593 at 98.83 with 3 hundreds and 2 fifties from 8 innings. Like Hughes, he has played unconvincingly at times in his career but he has a test average of 35 (with only 2 average padding not outs from 35 innings) with 5 centuries and 4 fifties. He's 34, so a mere kid compared to Rogers and he's actually a middle order player.
North has been playing as an opener for some time now.
So would be well suited to play at 3, then.
Or at 6 as per the rest of his career.
8 FC tons & 25 50s from 85 appearances (or 6 & 18 from 53) just screams "Test #3" to me.Hughes will get his chance when an opening spot becomes available. Probably when Rogers retires or loses form. They rightfully picked two bats to compete for the number 3 or 6 spot - depending on where Watson bats.
Ugggh.
Hoggy on the radio the other night pointed out Marsh's only ton this year he came in at 3/300, so sounds like he earned it in tough conditions. Hit 150 runs in his other 9 knocks.
Good series, the one gone but there is still not enough in the cupboard.
8 FC tons & 25 50s from 85 appearances (or 6 & 18 from 53) just screams "Test #3" to me.Hughes will get his chance when an opening spot becomes available. Probably when Rogers retires or loses form. They rightfully picked two bats to compete for the number 3 or 6 spot - depending on where Watson bats.
Ugggh.
Hoggy on the radio the other night pointed out Marsh's only ton this year he came in at 3/300, so sounds like he earned it in tough conditions. Hit 150 runs in his other 9 knocks.
Good series, the one gone but there is still not enough in the cupboard.
I wouldn't have picked Marsh. My opinion is that they shouldn't pick an opener to bat at three or six.
I can’t really split Marsh/Doolan, in that behind the top guys in shield, then the guys who’ve had a pretty decent year, why bother splitting hairs?
Hopefully Shaun Marsh looks you all look like a bunch of nuffies in the same way Mitch Johnson did.
I hope he does. I am a non-believer based on his previous test stint and first class form.
Its a family tradition. Geoff Marsh got a free ride as on opener - Averaged 31 in a career lasting 4 or 5 years. It's in the genes.
Hughes has worked hard on his batting against spin and yes I still worry about him but I think Marsh is far worse.
You are confused.
Marsh is a much better player than Hughes against spin - They are in different worlds - Marsh has issues against pace/swing - And the fact that he has never made many runs in FC cricket.
Didnt say Marsh was poor against spin.You are confused.
Hughes has worked hard on his batting against spin and yes I still worry about him but I think Marsh is far worse.
Marsh is a much better player than Hughes against spin - They are in different worlds - Marsh has issues against pace/swing - And the fact that he has never made many runs in FC cricket.
Marsh is worse than Hughes overall
We are Number 1 in ODI's again.
Thanks to those plucky Kiwis.
talant wise, marsh is a far better prospect than hughes imo.
There's no doubting Marsh's talent. But eight First Class 100s in 14 First Class seasons suggests he's never going to fullfill it. Hughes has 24 100s from seven seasons.
There's no doubting Marsh's talent. But eight First Class 100s in 14 First Class seasons suggests he's never going to fullfill it. Hughes has 24 100s from seven seasons.
The problem is, no amount of runs in FC can ever guarantee a position in the National team. Never has with many who have missed out over the years.
It's not what you know it's who you know?
There's no doubting Marsh's talent. But eight First Class 100s in 14 First Class seasons suggests he's never going to fullfill it. Hughes has 24 100s from seven seasons.
The problem is, no amount of runs in FC can ever guarantee a position in the National team. Never has with many who have missed out over the years.
This is what the Argus report had to say about selection:
It is critical that superior performance is rewarded at all levels. Players must earn their positions in the time-honoured way of making runs, taking wickets and showing that they are ready to play at the next level.
It seems that has been quickly forgotten. Marsh is obviously a favourite of Lehmann's. Boof coached him in the IPL, where Marsh has been a success. The funny thing about Marsh is that his ODI, domestic one-dayer and T20 averages are superior to his First Class average.
I think Marsh is more a favourite of Inverarity than Boof, I have little doubt Inverarity would of been the main barrow pusher for Marsh's inclusionThis is what the Argus report had to say about selection:
The problem is, no amount of runs in FC can ever guarantee a position in the National team. Never has with many who have missed out over the years.
There's no doubting Marsh's talent. But eight First Class 100s in 14 First Class seasons suggests he's never going to fullfill it. Hughes has 24 100s from seven seasons.
It is critical that superior performance is rewarded at all levels. Players must earn their positions in the time-honoured way of making runs, taking wickets and showing that they are ready to play at the next level.
It seems that has been quickly forgotten. Marsh is obviously a favourite of Lehmann's. Boof coached him in the IPL, where Marsh has been a success. The funny thing about Marsh is that his ODI, domestic one-dayer and T20 averages are superior to his First Class average.
There's no doubting Marsh's talent. But eight First Class 100s in 14 First Class seasons suggests he's never going to fullfill it. Hughes has 24 100s from seven seasons.
Seven? He's had seven summers here... surely at least 4-5 in England?