The Essendon case to apply for a Priority Pick

That’s irrelevant.

So, you’re talking about 2. That rule change was made in 2007 and Darcy Daniher was the first player drafted using it, just so happened to be a third round pick. The rule changed 5 years before Joe and three years after. Ayce Cordy, Mitch Wallis and Tom Mitchell were all taken with first round picks before Daniher was.

I agree with you that we are deserving. I’m just saying it won’t happen in a million years.

We should be asking the AFL to oversee an external review of all facets of the club.

That’s the assistance we need. A no holds barred, fully external, breakdown of everything going wrong. Every review we have done ourselves doesn’t seem to have broken this cycle we seem to be stuck in.

Remember last time we had access to ‘the best player’. Look what we picked.

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The AFL doesn’t have the expertise to run a hot dog stand, let alone a football club.

That doesn’t answer my question, really. It is an indicator of a type of failure, agreed. My question is why is that the metric, because I don’t think it really is. It’s just another piece of trivia. If we’d made the finals last year and lost, and were sitting 3-0 this year, nobody would seriously be suggesting we should be asking for a first round priority pick because we haven’t won a final in 22 years. If we get a priority pick it will be (and I think should be) because we are acutely ■■■■ right now, and my opinion wouldn’t change based on whether we beat north in an elimination final in 2014.

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That’s what’s needs to happen I have no confidence the club will get the next regime right.

Wonder which dud coach we hire next

We can ask, but the hysteria from the fan bases of other clubs will put enough pressure on the AFL to deny us

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They bailed Brisbane and Gold Coast when they were rubbish

They will probably bail GWS next if they continue to be poor

Did norf get help? They applied I’m sure

Yes. They got three end of first round picks across two years (two of which they more or less had to trade), plus some other stuff.

Yep. And those clubs are both strategically important to the AFL.

We are not. We are the same basket as St Kilda, Melbourne, North Melbourne, Bulldogs, Carlton. We are all now irrelevant clubs who only exist to make up the numbers so the AFL has 9 games to sell every week.

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Hasn’t hit the AFL in the pocket yet but at this rate it will if they don’t do something about helping the teams at the bottom that are struggling.

Ch7 don’t want Essendon anymore on prime time soon to be followed by Carlton and Richmond etc

They will lose money on their next tv rights deal if they don’t do something.

We’re not a big Melbourne club anymore. The AFL don’t need us to be succeeding in order to attract audiences. They just need us to be “OK”. Same for Carlton.

The days of needing two big Melbourne clubs playing each other to attract a TV audience are over. Last year rhe highest rated regular season game was Gold Coast hosting Collingwood.

We can debate objectively whether Essendon deserves assistance or not. If you don’t ask, you won’t get. It has to ask. Plant the seed.

And btw, it is absurd to suggest Essendon isn’t a big Melbourne club anymore. We can be frustrated, angry and totally ‘hate’ on Essendon in the current crisis but what is undeniable is that Essendon is still a very, very big club. it’s membership and attendances in the worst circumstances are remarkable.

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Sure.

The original response though was on the context of ‘being advantaged’ by the change that got us kako.

Clearly we’ve also ‘been disadvantaged’ by the f/s bidding changes and also by the priority pick changes brought in prior to the 2006 ‘super draft’.

Edit: not that any of it makes any difference to us now given how many other problems we need to deal with first

The big four used to be Essendon, Carlton, Collingwood and Richmond.

Carlton and Essendon were replaced by Hawthorn and Geelong in that list a long time ago.

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I think they are definetly softening up the comp to permanently give the bottom of the ladder sides more young draft talent with the father son /academy top 5 pick - yields extra end of first picks this season.

So we will get assistance anyway. The AFL has recognised it by taking a look at WC and Norfs situation.

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We will finish last this year, without a shadow of a doubt.
I honestly think we might not win a game.

Regardless, they wont give us a pick. They ■■■■■■ us over with the Draper compensation and they wont go out of their way to help us yet.

The AFL cares far more about ensuring the viability of the sport in the Northern states over helping struggling big clubs who still bring in revenue.