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Appendicitis is awesome.
You get to make friends with Sister Morphine, you get time off work to bludge, you get sympathy for a standard procedure, you get a scar that you can pretend was from a gang fight...

I'm looking forward to the egress of my recently discovered kidney stone.
Tempted to get in early & nip down Vic Street so I don't have to wait to get to hospital.

That's some pretty good pain, too.
Inhale deeply of the green stick, and make sure you have someone to share the ride with who will never speak of your discussion again.

Pretty sure you are on a shallow learning curve…

Wiki says" The expression steep learning curve is used with opposite meanings. The term is often used in common English with the meaning of a difficult initial learning process.[26][6] Nevertheless, the Oxford English Dictionary, The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, and Merriam-Webster‘s Collegiate Dictionary define a learning curve as the rate at which skill is acquired, so a steep increase would mean a quick increment of skill.[5][26]"

Pretty sure you are on a shallow learning curve...
Wiki says" The expression steep learning curve is used with opposite meanings. The term is often used in common English with the meaning of a difficult initial learning process.[26][6] Nevertheless, the Oxford English Dictionary, The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, and Merriam-Webster‘s Collegiate Dictionary define a learning curve as the rate at which skill is acquired, so a steep increase would mean a quick increment of skill.[5][26]"

I'm even more confused now - don't think that paragraph makes sense at all. I don't think the two are opposite, or exclusive.

I would say was my understanding of the phrase was pretty close to that 2nd definition.

And a 'difficult learning process' (the 1st definition) would involve learning lots, wouldn't it? It's not a 'steep learning curve' because you're struggling to learn very little - that's just the subject being an idiot.

 

■■■■■ me when people describe something that is hard as having a "steep learning curve"

 

would've thought that means its easy to learn

I'm pretty sure you're wrong

Steep learning curve means you have to learn a lot, quickly.

 

Definitely HAP's version.

 

 

■■■■■ me when people describe something that is hard as having a "steep learning curve"

 

would've thought that means its easy to learn

I'm pretty sure you're wrong

Steep learning curve means you have to learn a lot, quickly.

 

Definitely HAP's version.

 

i think thats the problem though. people use the opposite in every day use of the word.

 

when in actual fact the opposite of what they are saying is true.

 

graphically speaking, if the horizontal axis is time, and the y axis is skills aquired. then a steep curve would mean it takes less time to acquire the skills. a shallow curve would mean takes longer to achieve skills.

 

 

 

■■■■■ me when people describe something that is hard as having a "steep learning curve"

 

would've thought that means its easy to learn

I'm pretty sure you're wrong

Steep learning curve means you have to learn a lot, quickly.

 

Definitely HAP's version.

 

i think thats the problem though. people use the opposite in every day use of the word.

 

when in actual fact the opposite of what they are saying is true.

 

graphically speaking, if the horizontal axis is time, and the y axis is skills aquired. then a steep curve would mean it takes less time to acquire the skills. a shallow curve would mean takes longer to achieve skills.

 

Like the expression 'to luck out'. It means you're in luck, not out of luck.

Fever on a Monday morning

Appendicitis is awesome.
You get to make friends with Sister Morphine, you get time off work to bludge, you get sympathy for a standard procedure, you get a scar that you can pretend was from a gang fight...

I'm looking forward to the egress of my recently discovered kidney stone.
Tempted to get in early & nip down Vic Street so I don't have to wait to get to hospital.

Had kidney stones last year. Had them vibrated to death, smashed and pulverized by a Doc in Kew. Bit of pain , but not that bad, except felt like I was ■■■■■■■ needles for a few days.
I found a herbal remedy though called stone breaker tea, and got some on the net. It dissolved all the remnants. And I regret not trying it before. So give it a go, it worked for me. Tastes bad and you have to drink a lot of it over a few days, but it cleaned me out, and no returns !!

 

Pretty sure you are on a shallow learning curve...
Wiki says" The expression steep learning curve is used with opposite meanings. The term is often used in common English with the meaning of a difficult initial learning process.[26][6] Nevertheless, the Oxford English Dictionary, The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, and Merriam-Webster‘s Collegiate Dictionary define a learning curve as the rate at which skill is acquired, so a steep increase would mean a quick increment of skill.[5][26]"

I'm even more confused now - don't think that paragraph makes sense at all. I don't think the two are opposite, or exclusive.

I would say was my understanding of the phrase was pretty close to that 2nd definition.

And a 'difficult learning process' (the 1st definition) would involve learning lots, wouldn't it? It's not a 'steep learning curve' because you're struggling to learn very little - that's just the subject being an idiot.

 

Agree.  I don't think those meanings are opposites at all.

 

I also agree that a steep learning curve means that there is a lot to be learnt in a short time.  If there's not much to be learnt, then it's a shallow learning curve.

 

The real objection to both expressions is that they're cliches.  If someone has a lot to learn in a short time, why not just say so?  Why start talking about curves?

Coming back from a holiday



Pretty sure you are on a shallow learning curve...
Wiki says" The expression steep learning curve is used with opposite meanings. The term is often used in common English with the meaning of a difficult initial learning process.[26][6] Nevertheless, the Oxford English Dictionary, The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, and Merriam-Webster‘s Collegiate Dictionary define a learning curve as the rate at which skill is acquired, so a steep increase would mean a quick increment of skill.[5][26]"

I'm even more confused now - don't think that paragraph makes sense at all. I don't think the two are opposite, or exclusive.
I would say was my understanding of the phrase was pretty close to that 2nd definition.
And a 'difficult learning process' (the 1st definition) would involve learning lots, wouldn't it? It's not a 'steep learning curve' because you're struggling to learn very little - that's just the subject being an idiot.
Agree. I don't think those meanings are opposites at all.
I also agree that a steep learning curve means that there is a lot to be learnt in a short time. If there's not much to be learnt, then it's a shallow learning curve.
The real objection to both expressions is that they're cliches. If someone has a lot to learn in a short time, why not just say so? Why start talking about curves?
Totally agree, cliches are so old hat, aren't they?
I think we should go the whole hog:
Ds / dt > 1

Coming back from a holiday

People who won't shut up about their holiday after they get home. 

The fkg NBN and how long it takes.

 

The coalition's proposed ■■■■ NBN.

 

 

 

Pretty sure you are on a shallow learning curve...
Wiki says" The expression steep learning curve is used with opposite meanings. The term is often used in common English with the meaning of a difficult initial learning process.[26][6] Nevertheless, the Oxford English Dictionary, The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, and Merriam-Webster‘s Collegiate Dictionary define a learning curve as the rate at which skill is acquired, so a steep increase would mean a quick increment of skill.[5][26]"

I'm even more confused now - don't think that paragraph makes sense at all. I don't think the two are opposite, or exclusive.
I would say was my understanding of the phrase was pretty close to that 2nd definition.
And a 'difficult learning process' (the 1st definition) would involve learning lots, wouldn't it? It's not a 'steep learning curve' because you're struggling to learn very little - that's just the subject being an idiot.
Agree. I don't think those meanings are opposites at all.
I also agree that a steep learning curve means that there is a lot to be learnt in a short time. If there's not much to be learnt, then it's a shallow learning curve.
The real objection to both expressions is that they're cliches. If someone has a lot to learn in a short time, why not just say so? Why start talking about curves?
Totally agree, cliches are so old hat, aren't they?
I think we should go the whole hog:
Ds / dt > 1

 

You're preaching to the converted there.  People go right over the top with clichés. 

 

Coming back from a holiday

People who won't shut up about their holiday after they get home. 

 

yes x 10000

 

And people who keep asking me about my holiday so in turn I can ask them about theirs.

 

I don't care about your holiday and I don't expect you to care about mine.

 

 

Coming back from a holiday

People who won't shut up about their holiday after they get home. 

 

yes x 10000

 

And people who keep asking me about my holiday so in turn I can ask them about theirs.

 

I don't care about your holiday and I don't expect you to care about mine.

 

And people who post about every meal and every inane activity they partake in on said holiday on Facebook. It doesn't matter whether you're in Glenorchy, Byron Bay, or London. You're still eating fish and chips and it's still really not interesting.

 

 

 

Coming back from a holiday

People who won't shut up about their holiday after they get home. 

 

yes x 10000

 

And people who keep asking me about my holiday so in turn I can ask them about theirs.

 

I don't care about your holiday and I don't expect you to care about mine.

 

And people who post about every meal and every inane activity they partake in on said holiday on Facebook. It doesn't matter whether you're in Glenorchy, Byron Bay, or London. You're still eating fish and chips and it's still really not interesting.

 

I may be a ■■■■■■, but I just hate looking at photos of family and friends on trips. When I go overseas, I take a million photos and then make a scrapbook and some canvas's etc (usually as I have gone with my girlfriend). But I don't bring them to work or friends houses and say "lets look at my photos" and all that crap. If they want to look at them I may bring them over and quickly go through it, I just find it really boring. I take the photos for my memories, not to show off to others.

 

 

 

 

Pretty sure you are on a shallow learning curve...
Wiki says" The expression steep learning curve is used with opposite meanings. The term is often used in common English with the meaning of a difficult initial learning process.[26][6] Nevertheless, the Oxford English Dictionary, The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, and Merriam-Webster‘s Collegiate Dictionary define a learning curve as the rate at which skill is acquired, so a steep increase would mean a quick increment of skill.[5][26]"

I'm even more confused now - don't think that paragraph makes sense at all. I don't think the two are opposite, or exclusive.
I would say was my understanding of the phrase was pretty close to that 2nd definition.
And a 'difficult learning process' (the 1st definition) would involve learning lots, wouldn't it? It's not a 'steep learning curve' because you're struggling to learn very little - that's just the subject being an idiot.
Agree. I don't think those meanings are opposites at all.
I also agree that a steep learning curve means that there is a lot to be learnt in a short time. If there's not much to be learnt, then it's a shallow learning curve.
The real objection to both expressions is that they're cliches. If someone has a lot to learn in a short time, why not just say so? Why start talking about curves?
Totally agree, cliches are so old hat, aren't they?
I think we should go the whole hog:
Ds / dt > 1

 

You're preaching to the converted there.  People go right over the top with clichés. 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FYTc55nGEI

 

Coming back from a holiday

People who won’t shut up about their holiday after they get home.
yes x 10000
 
And people who keep asking me about my holiday so in turn I can ask them about theirs.
 
I don’t care about your holiday and I don’t expect you to care about mine.
And people who post about every meal and every inane activity they partake in on said holiday on Facebook. It doesn’t matter whether you’re in Glenorchy, Byron Bay, or London. You’re still eating fish and chips and it’s still really not interesting.
I may be a ■■■■■■, but I just hate looking at photos of family and friends on trips. When I go overseas, I take a million photos and then make a scrapbook and some canvas’s etc (usually as I have gone with my girlfriend). But I don’t bring them to work or friends houses and say “lets look at my photos” and all that crap. If they want to look at them I may bring them over and quickly go through it, I just find it really boring. I take the photos for my memories, not to show off to others.
guess it’s lucky we’re not Facebook buddies - I did a daily update on my last trip! Maybe my friends were just being polite, but a heap of them have said how much they liked it, and have asked me to do it again when I’m in New Zealand in October!

 

guess it's lucky we're not Facebook buddies - I did a daily update on my last trip! Maybe my friends were just being polite, but a heap of them have said how much they liked it, and have asked me to do it again when I'm in New Zealand in October!

 

 

 

 

Coming back from a holiday

People who won't shut up about their holiday after they get home.

 

yes x 10000
 
And people who keep asking me about my holiday so in turn I can ask them about theirs.
 
I don't care about your holiday and I don't expect you to care about mine.

 

And people who post about every meal and every inane activity they partake in on said holiday on Facebook. It doesn't matter whether you're in Glenorchy, Byron Bay, or London. You're still eating fish and chips and it's still really not interesting.

 

I may be a ■■■■■■, but I just hate looking at photos of family and friends on trips. When I go overseas, I take a million photos and then make a scrapbook and some canvas's etc (usually as I have gone with my girlfriend). But I don't bring them to work or friends houses and say "lets look at my photos" and all that crap. If they want to look at them I may bring them over and quickly go through it, I just find it really boring. I take the photos for my memories, not to show off to others.

 

 

Very lucky, that is actually my biggest pet hate. My GF's sister was overseas and every day was a bunch of photos they would upload and fill my timeline.

 

Why not just create an album on FB and have peopl go into that rather than upload one photo at a time like a status update*

 

 

*That question isn't actually directed at you, more my future SIL and co.