Camry is so ubiquitous i glanced past it
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Tesla is only number 1 because major manufacturers were too slow in investing in electric. If they jumped in, instead of paying lip service, it would be a different story.
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This guy shows what an absolute creep he is and yet you still deify him.
That says a lot about you…and none of it good.
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What’s interesting is, Tesla is the 14th placed when you look at volume of cars shipped in 2024. Toyota is 5 times the size.
When you look at the ‘value’ of the companies, Tesla is clear #1 about 4 times the size of Toyota.
With Tesla sales having double digit decline in every major market, it’s hard to see how they will be able to maintain the high share price
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China and Korea have caught up to Tesla now, and the legacy auto makers are all just about gone because of their incompetence and the shortsighted quest of profit.
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Tesla is valued like a tech company, not a car manufacturer, so their stock is hyperinflated compared to competitors
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Wonder what % is due to Elon. Cause he’s pumped it up, but now dragging it.
Which means it has a long way to fall. If their new car sales keep declining they don’t have a big enough market to adopt the tech and the valuation will flip to just being an automaker.
Apple despite being a premium product still has 27% market share, Tesla is not going to have anywhere near that.
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3 hrs? hard no from me.
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@Drapersmullet is correct
Price to Earnings ratio measures a companies stock price relative to it’s earnings per share. A higher P/E implies greater growth expectations (or potential overvaluation).
Tesla’s P/E is 60-70
Compare this to
Ford 10-15
GM 5-7
Then compare to
Apple 28-32
Microsoft - 30-35
Its worth noting
S&P Average is 20-25
Tesla’s sky-high P/E reflects its growth narrative, not current fundamentals. It trades more like a hyper-growth tech company than a traditional automaker. However, compared to the S&P 500 average and even many tech peers, its valuation assumes near-perfect execution over the next decade. If Tesla stumbles, its P/E could compress sharply, as seen with other high-flyers like Meta during growth slowdowns.
Tesla’s valuation is a bet on the future, not the present. Its P/E only makes sense if you believe it will dominate multiple industries (EVs, AI, energy) at scale.
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Did he address why he’s campaigning for a German far right party that wants people to believe that Hitler was actually a left wing communist? Whilst also bemoaning lack of “truth” ?
Couldn’t pay me to listen to that podcast.
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I’m about halfway through, the AFD hasn’t come up yet.
I bet he talks about the decline in birth rate while simultaneously cutting support services provided to families by government.
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Will be the usual Toe podcast experience. 3 hours of both morons getting angry and confused about something that a quick google search can answer.
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I’m guessing the afd didn’t come up. Unless Tyler’s not finished yet
did he get elon to sniff the smelling salts tho?
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He’s just White Kenye
