I assume it’s a comparison of Germany from 1933-1945 to the USA from 1946-2022.
So there are some issues right there.
There’s no doubt that the US have done some terrible things, often to innocent people. Laos certainly comes to mind.
Probably the South American nation of your choice.
I’m still not sure the sheer weight of numbers stacks up.
But all of that also ignores the good things the US has done in that three quarters of a century to Germany’s twelve years.
And of course it also ignores that Germany only stopped because they were stopped.
The point could be argued. But even if it were argued by someone very knowledgeable, it’s still a tough call.
This is just a dumb statement thrown out there by an idiot.
by the looks of it should have put it in the unpopular opinion thread .
it is always funny though, people always equate that to lessening or diminishing of what happened back then, instead of seeing it as i view how they act is equally abhorrent just with a smaller scope of continued poor behaviour that adds up.
people genereally get stuck on the 6 million jews part.
is killing 6 million jews in a 6-10 year period worse than killing i’d hazard a guess way more than that over a span of 50 years ? with no end in sight across the many wars america has been in and involved in ? under the guise of freedom and democracy ?
to me they are both equally ■■■■■■.
the problem is, ones reign ended almost 100 years ago and is used as the guiding light of what should never happen again.
one continues to get away with their actions cos again they mastered propaganda to make the rest of the world think they are fighting for everyones right to freedom and democracy.
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I agree with all things ‘USA is terrible’ line but I stop short of comparing them to Nazi Germans though. Too many raw emotions about that topic. Best not to go there.
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i’ll add this reply here so as to stop de railing this thread. that’s the problem though isn’t it. as soon as you compare, people always jump to oh you’re diminishing what happened and all that, and then generally try guilt people into submission by demonising or and mocking them for daring to even broach the subject.
anyway like i said I won’t keep going on with it after this.
You’re saying current US (actually you’re just saying US which is uselessly vague) is worse than Nazi Germany.
It follows that you’re saying the world would be better off with Nazi Germany having been the dominant power in the world for the last three quarters of a century.
I don’t think you’ll find anyone to agree with that.
Apart from, you know, Nazis.
Your points are vague and imprecise, drawn from the church of it stands to reason and the pub of some bloke said.
You may have something approaching a point, I doubt it but it’s possible.
You simply don’t have the chops to even begin defending it.
The intent is the difference (among others). The Nazis committed, as policy, to undertake genocide.
The US intentions since 1945 have been for thier own intentions (generally speaking) which has caused much harm, violence and death. But find me an example where they purposely set out as a government policy to commit genocide.
The one glimmer of hope I have is the younger generation of us tend to be more self-aware and environmentally conscious. Hopefully it won’t become too corrupted once it begins to gain political clout.
We are run by a lot of 80 somethings who are still trying to cling to 1950s values.
U.S. aircraft dropped more ordnance on Laos than on all countries during World War II, leaving Laos with about 78 million pieces of unexploded ordnance (UXO) by the end of the war.[109] Casualties continue to mount from UXO dropped by the U.S. and Laotian Air Forces from 1964 to 1973. It has been reported that, between 1964 and 1973, areas controlled by the invading North Vietnamese and Pathet Lao were hit by an average of one B‑52 bomb-load every eight minutes, 24 hours a day. Xiangkhouang Province was the most heavily bombed province. Thirty per cent of bombs failed to explode immediately.
I mean, if that’s not genocide then it’s not for lack of trying. For a country they weren’t at war with.