Yes, of course. It matters to some people and not at all to others.
How about there are a myriad of ways to make money that doesnât leave a trail of destruction and degradation (further) of the reputation of the organisation for stripping cash from those who can least afford it and preying on their dire circumstance. If you want Essendon to keep it up, as one of only 4 clubs in Victoria that need it, then fine, personally I donât. Itâs pitiful that we sit with St Kilda whilst we strip mine Melton.
Even Western Bulldogs and North Melbourne donât need pokie revenue, if they can do it we can do it.
3 Likes
Itâs all hyperbole. Just garbage.
They both also need to sell home games every year. I think the pokie revenue would help them immensely. Theyâre â â â â â â â â for getting rid of them.
2 Likes
If the AFL wants to pay us to get out of Pokies then theyâre welcome to stump up the extra cash.
Until then stop deluding yourselves.
1 Like
Hyperbole? Do you understand the meaning of that word? To suggest a not for profit, member based sporting organisation with a licence to participate in the AFL competition can find non core investments generating revenue streams not involving poker machines is hyperbole is just patent nonsense, itâs a simple statement of fact.
You could point to any number of passive income streams involving retail businesses, property investments, ETFs or direct investments in ASX shares amongst others. Of course if thatâs hyperbole then I cannot help you.
1 Like
Itâs not that simple. Every institution that says no to pokies creates more of a buyerâs market and reduces their value. Culturally every institution that says no takes a little more communal blessing off pokies as a worthwhile investment for others too. Personally I think sale is a reasonable compromise between profits and community protection.
There is not a constant appetite for the machines- we have created the appetite since Trico went bust and we turned into another NSW, relying on squeezing addicts for state debt. Cutting down the supply would cut down the misery. Baptist EFC fan Tim Costello is at the forefront of this fight.
Furthermore you cannot let the actions of âsomeone elseâ determine your morality. Every second âAmerican candy (and under the counter chop-chop)â shop is firebombed in Melbourne these days- would you take one out just because someone else probably will? If itâs wrong, donât do it.
An alternative that is not much discussed might be to make the payouts so small it is near impossible to lose your life savings on the machines. The government could gradually squeeze profits over time so punters got a thrill without the bill. EFC and the rest would gradually lose their profits and we might see some more concentrated interest in other revenue streams.
1 Like
Pokie regulation is a much more intelligent discussion to have rather than just calling for them to be sold which does absolutely nothing to help problem gambling.
Please explain how selling our license to another business entity is suppose to reduce demand?
It reduces the stain of accepting pokie money by Essendon.
We are a football club representing a large community built up over 150 years and we should stand for more than accepting money from misery.
You disagree, I get it
5 Likes
Which has been proven over and over to be a completely hypocritical stance for anyone to take who directly or indirectly benefits from government taxes on Pokies.
Theyâre two completely different topics, you donât have to choose between talking about one or the other
If you exist in Australia itâs hypocritical to be against poker machines.
Thatâs a frigginâ wild argument.
3 Likes
Arguing that a football club shouldnât take revenue from them is 100% hypocritical. Every Victorian either directly or indirectly benefits from the tax revenue generated from Poker machines.
You can be against them all you like but that shouldnât mean that a football club board and itâs members have to agree with you.
Utter rubbish. Itâs not hypocritical at all. Itâs saying you donât want your not for profit community club to not be associated with something that plagues the community you are supposed to represent.
Otherwise letâs attach a brothel to the hanger, it exists and is legal, why shouldnât we invest in it. Donât worry if the ladies are trafficked, hard to prove and whatever, we can profit from them.
Yeah, you cannot be communicated with on this issue.
1 Like
lol what the â â â â
Just a reminder that if you havenât voted yet for the Board Nominations but you are a valid member please vote and while you are at it also have your say on the proposed resolution. Please read the resolution and note that the resolution is asking the club to acknowledge that poker machines cause harm and is not a call to immediately exit poker machines.
2 Likes
Hahaha so now weâre aligning poker machines to human trafficking. Your delusion knows no limits.
You clearly canât formulate an argument, give up.
The only argument thatâs been made to the contrary is pure virtue signalling. I suggest you focus on bumper stickers.
Why are you upset by the idea of even discussing it? Itâs not like anyone with considerable power is holding the club hostage over this. Morality changes over time and every now and again groups of people test the waters on where they collectively stand. Thatâs all this is. I bet weâd discover plenty of people who are fine with pokies and all the other status quo revenue streams would eventually be against some form of potential revenue, if anyone could be bothered probing hard enough.
These arguments are really just different versions of the âwe should improve society somewhatâ comic strip.
1 Like