We are worse tbf
Who do you think we should delist or put up for trade nino?
Because we need more than a quick fix. If you want to bring in quality players you have to give up something too. I know in your fantasy world you want to bring in A or B graders for a pick in the 70ās but reality is different.
You want someone like Houston then you will be coughing up a first so we either throw away this years first for another quick fix or you have to trade out someone like Parish, Redman or McGrath that will get you a first
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Iām with you. Everyone jumps the gun and blames the talent on the list or lack thereof. We have that many first round picks on the list itās crazy, earlier in the year there were many praising the talent on the list. As much as almost everyone blames dodoro, most of his draft picks have been well publicised as natural picks at that stage of the draft. Itās not like he selected players that phantom drafts suggested weāre going to go in the 30ās as first round picksā¦
Unfortunately our issues are bigger than that. Our issues are high performance related. We canāt get our players to commit to high quality footy for a full season. Thatās the issue, itās cultural. We need someone to fix that, I hoped it was Brad Scott but Iām not sold. He has protected the players (externally at least) whereas someone like Mitchell as much as it pains me to say has got a list that has clearly overachieved and still demands more. They lost a respectable game and he said to his players youāve used the last of your lives now, to make finals there cannot be any more slip ups. Brad Scott would come out, publicly at least and say we did everything right but just couldnāt convert. Itās not a talent or recruiting issue, our club accepts poor performance. Others donāt and thatās why other sides have gone past us.
I just hope that the internal message from Brad is very different to the external message
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Trade
Wright
Shiel
Hobbs or Tastas
Cox
Stringer
Laverde
Delist
Baldwin
Reid
Menzie
Kelly
Hind
Retire
Heppel
Goldstien
Theres some i missed but thats a start
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They wont delist menzie after signing him, or reid
I think you could put kelly & hind into the delist pile and i actually like your list. That to me would be a successful off season
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Yep forgot about Hind.
Wright, Shiel and Stringer might get a pick in the 50ās each
Lav is give away for free
Cox would be lucky to get a pick in the 40ās
Hobbs or Tsatas might get a pick in the late teens or better
I think we could get a second rounder for Wright a club like Pies or Melbourne would imo
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If Wright could clunk a mark, heād be worth keeping. Unlike our other forwards, he can actually kick straight.
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Farrrk you got me! Should have used 12 years instead of 10, huge lesson for me there.
Itās hard to line the blame up here because obviously itās not his go to have big bombs on his head. Can he get better? Maybe but idk
Could we much improve and clean up our entries and actually get him running and hit him on leads? Yeah for sure. I always think back to the game against the Doggies where he kicked 7 or whatever
Edit: but if he keeps it up next year like this then heāll be VFL relegated and eventually delisted. I think weāve seen that 2 rucks and 2MP doesnāt work soā¦ probably not the best stability wise to be frequently changing the ruck setups
edit 2: Iād be expecting him to kick 4+ most weeks in the VFL though surely, no idea where heās gone this drastically wrong
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I would ask the question about malcom rosas jr and joel jeffrey as small forwards from the suns who have fallen out of favour and might not cost much. They will have Lombard coming in who they need points for. Also have 3 picks in the first round if we could bring one of those in.
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Joel Jeffrey is 6ft 4. Rosas Iād be very interested in. He definitely has plenty of upside. Heās a little bit of a cat at times but he really can play.
The issue is, Gold Coast are a side who really lack small forwards as well. Like actual small forwards. As opposed to vanilla workhorses like Holman and Berry.
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From the Jones threadā¦
Yeah. Certainly too many third talls is a big issue. I suspect caddy and cox are too.
We need to make some decisions to address the balance issue but certain players seem untouchable.
We should have a look at a forward line of wright and caddy with no Langford .
Maybe Langford is actually the guy to trade out for a first round pick and that unlocks things.
Offer for Trade - shiel, stringer, wright, langford, Jones and draper aiming for 3 firsts with maybe a few pick swaps to balance and a second rounder or 2). Potentially not all firsts this year
Take 6 first round picks and 3 second in the next two drafts (kako + 1, 3 x kp, 5 best ball users who arenāt afraid of contact).
That would be an incredibly brave approach but i look at that and think itās pretty exciting and a real break from our historically conservative approach
Heās still a livewire forward turned backman who when Iāve watched looks to play small. Thing about suns is they already have so much young talent and bringing in more talent every year with their academy so their will always be some being squeezed out. It will be hard to push out the big three Anderson, Rowell, and Touk so players being drafted as mids are probably being plugged in to play a different area of the ground. I say we lure them with the opportunity to play their true position
We tried to get Rosas previously as well. Would be a fantastic list acquisition for us.
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You donāt want to rebuild but you want to move on 13 players 
Never change Nino.
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Fark, i really missed that one
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It could work, but we need to move one of the medium forwards Stringer or Langford on.
5 man bench would help too.