Trade talk - from August 2024

Collingwood is the team for Hobbs.

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We spent a year playing Martin off half back where he is a defensive liability and has regularly been exposed for it. Massimo could have done the exact job and and freed up Martin to be an offensive weapon kicking inside 50.

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Might be a lack of a better option.

Your overestimate our recruiter’s ability to identify talent.

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I remember when we recruited him the view was - we have ourselves the next Joel Selwood.

But the kids had bugger all CBAs in the big time.

He will move and it will be another Massimo success story.

The key is we actually get quality players in that fill needs

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Collingwood’s - Hobbs & 62
Essendon - 28 & 44

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Yep …this is the key. We just draft best available and balance is ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– .

I think that’s reasonable. Only problem is that those picks would be eaten up by Kako.

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I think the idea is we hopefully use our first round pick on someone other than Kako - so later round picks are exactly that for him.

The other option is trading for future picks or players

I think value wise, that’s the sort of trade we would be looking at. I know some would think he is worth more but I really doubt it.

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People just sort of run with that. I can’t recall many games Martin’s opponent hurt us on the other way. That being said I couldn’t tell you if he shut down anyone either. Really should watch the games a little closer and stop shitposting on Blitz.

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I’m torn between what the club should do because I don’t believe that Scott is a good coach. I would have said Brad and Rosa really need to look at the list and immediately remove players that don’t fit into Brad’s gameplan. Issue is I don’t like the gameplan and we would likely keep many players we shouldn’t.

We have 2 years to hit the draft and nail the draft before Tassie come in and we again get stuck trying to build with average draft hands.

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If Lukosius is bound for Adelaide.

Are any crows being forced out of their best 22 or decent guys on the fringe now looking for another club?

A lot are blind panic kicks forward. There is plenty of times when players have been free inside 50 and we blaze away

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People seem a little too quick to write off Ben Hobbs.

He’ll never be quick but his kicking, which isn’t as bad as some believe, can be improved. But most importantly, it’s his competitive nature and hardness at the ball/man that we desperately need.

He’s out of contract next year. Play him every game and see what he can do. If that means playing him ahead of like the likes of Dylan Shiel or even (ducks head) Darcy Parish, then so be it.

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we need to bring in another quality user at half back.

options - cumming, Perryman, Caleb Daniel etc.
There are some option at the draft too.

we need to bring in a small forward - likely Kako, will we bring in another maybe Rosas Jnr or another not yet mentioned as linked to us.

If LAV goes, do we grab another experienced KPB as insurance for Hayes/Reid, like Nick Haynes…I would prefer us to just blood Hayes, or put Cox, Jones, or whoever back through there.

Bombing it forward is a safe option.

The players with suspect kicking don’t want to be delivering the ball to a free forward, with the fear that they f*ck up the kick……. And they look like idiots. Especially if it’s intercepted by an opponent and sling shot down the other end.

Kicking long and high to a pack, keeps their kicking efficiency 100%. Then They can pass the buck to the forwards.

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Probably true, but at the very least we need picks to be ā€˜eaten up’ by a Kako bid otherwise we fark our draft next year

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This club is in a really bad state right now. Scott has implemented a defensive plan that has stifled our attack. Is this because he is being conservative or because we have a plethora of poor ball users that thwart any positive ball movement because of turnovers?

Either way, We have a long long road ahead of us. I don’t see us contending for another decade or more.

El-Hawli & Roberts :fire:

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