Cameron’s ban is the most baffling tribunal decision I have seen. What’s unreasonable about it?
He didn’t sling
He didn’t lift
It wasn’t in the back
He didn’t even pin both his arms
Tackle is dead.
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is it as simple as contact to the head = suspension (unless betting outcomes are in jeopardy…mostly) so that when defending against concussion related legal proceedings the AFL can point and say look how serious we are about protecting the head and preventing concussion?
really seems like it.
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Yep. It really is nuts to me.
Just a reminder that in light of Cameron getting three weeks for that tackle one can now assume that that moment that we lauded from Paddy Ambrose as a cracking tackle, which was potentially match saving, would now cop weeks. Hill grabbed his head straight after and ended up missing the next week.
You’d need to get the old pillow out from the back pocket and place it under his head nowadays.
Hawks speedster withdrawn from clash with Dogs
Bradley Hill fails to overcome concussion in time for Tasmanian clash
By Nat Edwards
Apr 18, 2015, 6:01pm
HAWTHORN speedster Bradley Hill has been withdrawn from the side to face the Western Bulldogs on Sunday at Aurora Stadium.
Hill was left concussed in the dying seconds of last Sunday’s two-point loss to Essendon after Bomber Patrick Ambrose slammed him into the ground during a tackle.
The Hawks named the 21-year-old in their final squad on Friday night, but he was unsighted at Melbourne Airport on Saturday morning, when the rest of his teammates flew out to Launceston.
All three emergencies, midfielder Billy Hartung, forward James Sicily, and key position player Ryan Schoenmakers boarded the plane.
Hawthorn is yet to name the emergency who will come into the side for Hill, but Hartung would be a like-for-like replacement.
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TGF.
I’m still trying to get how hogan can punch someone in the face and get away with it.
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You are 100% correct. The AFL will be forced to protect the head at all costs, unless, past players stop suing the AFL for damages. At the end of the day, Aussie Rules is a contact sport and players may suffer long term damage to different parts of their body. In relation to long-term damage to the brain there are three major causes. Hits to the head, genetics and lifestyle factors. I have no idea how experts differentiate between these factors.
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Cameron and bedford’s ban are the worst yet. Horrible. I can 100% see a time where it will be a free kick if you tackle someone to the ground and to tackle, you must do it standing up
The league is that worried about concussion lawsuits that it is ruining the game in front of our eyes.
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All AFL care about is the mountain of ex player lawsuits coming their way down the track from concussion. No care re punch to guts, face as nil long term damage risk, although IMO a way worse act as it not accidental and bully behaviour
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‘Sit him down’. Apart from the extraordinary lengths Cameron would’ve had to go to to make that happen, that kind of ‘instruction’ will lead to more knee recos. Tribunal needs to undergo mass concussion protocols
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Just makes Dangerfield getting cleared all the more stinky, just so inconsistent
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The shift in the Auskick program over the past 6 years is an indicator of their intentions.
There’s now no tackling drills or tacking permitted in match simulations
A stark between my eldest and youngest son’s programs. I initially thought it was remnants of the Covid era, but that’s long passed
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Time for a players strike.
How can a player do his job under these conditions and rules?
Where the AFLPA in this?
Players are losing income just doing the job.
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How does boxing get away with it?
Whats the formula they use to avoid the legal trouble of the permeant damage that some of there athletes get?
I understand why they are trying to avoid head contact at all costs such as rubbing out the sling tackle which i think is fair but at some stage the AFL needs to understand that no matter the care the players take in tackling that contact in this sport is unavoidable
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100%.
How can MMA and Boxing exist?
How are the insurance clauses, employee waivers etc structured?
Probably becuase you willingly enter into a sport where it is known that the objective is the sport is to concuss your opponent to the point of utter incapacitation.
AFL is different in that although it is a contact sport, it is designed that there are reasonable precautions to stop concussions and brain injury from occuring.
If the AFL is officiated in a manner that falls short of those reasonable expectations then lawsuits will come.
Its a bit harder to make that argument for boxing.
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I think we are just in a stage of overcompensating.
Nobody actually knows what the balance needs to be. I’m sure there is one, it just needs to be established.
I’m all for reducing risk of concussion as much as possible (actually, as much as reasonable is a better way to frame that), and the AFL should be doing as much as they can in the detection/treatment/management space. But these suspensions aren’t a sustainable answer.
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100%
RIP anyone playing at a lower level. There’d be thousands of people that have been concussed during local footy and other sports to the extent they have permanent damage.
What recourse do they have?
I’m disappointed in Dillon, thought he had a good cv but already an absolute failure as a ceo. The guy has literally no new ideas first year in the job, I’ve never seen that in corporate Australia before, the only thing he has done is put Laura Kane in a role she isn’t competent to do and turn the sport into a legal play thing. Really disappointing, i actually thought he’d be decent, but he seems like Adrian Anderson 2.0, if Adrian was ever given the CEO gig.
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