Two 'Pie players test positive

Gee AFL, you sure know how to launch a season.

#StandByBucks ?

Sweet, sweet schadenfreude.

LOL

Direct quotes from Nathan:

“If my players were being injected, I would know about that.”

“there are still responsibilities and expectations that come with leadership positions”

“there is a responsibility to take care of the environment that you’re in”.

Link to Nathan saying words

So. Nathan has to stand down, surely? :smiley:

Farking Collingwood, always copying us.

hmm…the malthouse connection continues!

I’d like to know what Adam Goodes had to say about this…

No Collingwood fan can accuse us of being cheats now…

From Wiki ;

  Human use ; 

Clenbuterol is approved for use in some countries, free or via prescription, as a bronchodilator for asthma patients.[1]

Legal status
Clenbuterol is not an ingredient of any therapeutic drug approved by the US Food and Drug Administration[1] and is now banned for IOC-tested athletes.[2] In the US, administration of clenbuterol to any animal that could be used as food for human consumption is banned by the FDA.[3]

Clenbuterol is a therapeutic drug for asthma, approved for human use in some countries in Europe (Bulgaria and Russia) and Asia (China).

Weight-loss drug
Although often used by bodybuilders during their “cutting” cycles, the drug has been more recently known to the mainstream, particularly through publicized stories of use by celebrities such as Victoria Beckham,[2] Britney Spears, and Lindsay Lohan, [4] for its off-label use as a weight-loss drug similar to usage of other sympathomimetic amines such as ephedrine, despite the lack of sufficient clinical testing either supporting or negating such use.

Notable cases of use as performance-enhancing drug
As a β2 sympathomimetic, clenbuterol has also been used as a performance-enhancing drug.

A three-year suspension for taking clenbuterol kept sprinter Katrin Krabbe from competing in the 1992 Summer Olympics, and effectively ended her athletic career.[5][6][7]

In 2006, San Francisco Giants pitcher Guillermo Mota, while a member of the New York Mets, received a 50-game suspension after testing positive for clenbuterol.[8] In 2012, MLB officials announced they were again suspending Mota for 100 games due a positive test for clenbuterol.[9]

American swimmer Jessica Hardy tested positive at the US trials in 2008. She was subject to a one-year suspension, having claimed she unknowingly took the drug in a contaminated food supplement. Former New York Mets clubhouse employee Kirk Radomski admitted in his plea deal to distributing clenbuterol to dozens of current and former Major League Baseball players and associates.[10] After finishing fourth in the K-2 1000-m event at the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing, Polish sprint canoer Adam Seroczyński was disqualified for taking this drug, and Chinese cyclist Li Fuyu tested positive for it at the Dwars door Vlaanderen race in Belgium on March 24, 2010.[11]

In 2010, St. Louis Cardinals minor-league shortstop Lainer Bueno received a 50-game suspension for the 2011 season as a result of testing positive for clenbuterol.[12] Cyclist Alberto Contador of Spain was banned for two years from professional cycling after testing positive for the drug at the 2010 Tour de France.[13] He was later stripped of the 2010 title of the Tour de France and the 2011 title of the Giro d’Italia.[14] CAS found that Contador probably tested positive due to a contaminated food supplement.[15] In 2013, Contador’s team-mate on the Team Saxo Bank squad, Mick Rogers, tested positive for clenbuterol at the Japan Cup bike race. In April 2014 the Union Cycliste Internationale announced that it accepted Rogers’ explanation that the substance had been ingested by him after consuming contaminated meat whilst competing at the 2013 Tour of Beijing, upholding Rogers’ disqualification from the Japan Cup but declining to impose any further sanctions on him.[16]

In 2011, players of the Mexico national football team were found with clenbuterol in their bloodstreams, but were acquitted by WADA after they claimed the clenbuterol came from contaminated food. FIFA has also claimed 109 players from the Under-17 World Cup in Mexico tested positive for this drug, because Mexican meat is contaminated.[17]

In 2013, Mexican boxer Erik Morales was suspended for two years after testing positive for clenbuterol.[18]

In 2014, Toronto Maple Leafs Forward Carter Ashton was suspended from the NHL for 20 games without pay for violating the NHL/NHL Players’ Association Performance Enhancing Substances Program after it was determined that he had ingested Clenbuterol. Carter claimed he used an unprescribed asthma inhaler.[19]

In 2014, South Korean swimmer Kim Ji-heun has tested positive for the banned substance Clenbuterol at an out-of-competition test on May 13, 2014. After completion of proceedings by the Korea Anti-Doping Disciplinary Panel, Kim received a two-year suspension, back-dated to the day of his positive test.[20]

In 2015, Yankees minor league pitching prospect Moises Cedeno tested positive for the banned substance Clenbuterol and was suspended for 72 games.[21]

In 2015, two Collingwood Australian Football League players tested positive to the drug. They are still awaiting the results from the B sample.

They are G O R N

The A-Samples come the day after returning from a camp in New Zealand.

So the sheep shaggers got them.

Press ‘Red’ for Ed.

Why turn the blow torch on these kids in the same manner that our blokes have copped it? Sure we want to get a not guilty verdict and we want to send a message to those opposition supporters who have demanded blood from day dot to stick it up them, but this is not the way.

If these kid’s have done wrong they need to admit it so we can be done with it, otherwise we’ve got a serious issue on our hands regarding food consumption for the modern footballer. Essentially it shall become unviable for an AFL player to consume any foodstuff that does not meet WADA requirements. This on it’s own opens a whole new can of worms.

Notice how you’re projecting an opinion onto people that aren’t even ridiculing the players themselves just every other ■■■■■■■ ■■■■ related to the scandal that spoke ■■■■ about our club?

As much as it’s tempting, I can’t get excited about 2 players having their careers ended, even if they are from Collingwood. When tests are looking for a trace of anything from a list of hundreds of possible chemicals, of course they are going to find things occasionally that are genuine accidents. There is no requirement for ASADA to prove you had an advantage from the chemical, nor do they need to prove that it was an effectively large dose. They just need to show that it exists in your body. How on earth are you meant to prove a meal you ate 6 months earlier was contaminated? Can you imagine living with the fear that at any time you could ingest some random food additive, it get flagged in a test and result in a 4 year career ending ban? The system as it stands can cause far too much collateral damage in the quest to prosecute legitimate cheats.

I never once projected an opnion. I asked questions and expected our supporters to take stock and act appropriately.

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As much as it's tempting, I can't get excited about 2 players having their careers ended, even if they are from Collingwood. When tests are looking for a trace of anything from a list of hundreds of possible chemicals, of course they are going to find things occasionally that are genuine accidents. There is no requirement for ASADA to prove you had an advantage from the chemical, nor do they need to prove that it was an effectively large dose. They just need to show that it exists in your body. How on earth are you meant to prove a meal you ate 6 months earlier was contaminated? Can you imagine living with the fear that at any time you could ingest some random food additive, it get flagged in a test and result in a 4 year career ending ban? The system as it stands can cause far too much collateral damage in the quest to prosecute legitimate cheats.

Well said. Seriously where do we go from here?

Not enough collingwood hate in this thread, seriously disappointing.

It won’t be meat. Either they were deliberately doping, or it’s in illicit drugs they popped (which are mainly defined as PEDs according to WADA).