US politics - cooked

Depends how you define ‘critical’, really.

Will he pass stuff like the relief package? Sure.

But in the slightly longer run, serious strategic Dem priorities have to be stuff like voting rights reform, DC statehood, increased minimum wage, improvements to the ACA and so on.

There’s no way these things will pass unless the filibuster is abolished. No way. And Manchin has made it absolutely clear that he won’t vote for the filibuster to be abolished. He won’t directly vote against these critical pieces of Dem legislation, but he’ll knowingly prevent changes to a status quo that will never allow them to happen.

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We are expecting stuff from Manchin which will replace him permanently with a GOP senator.

What’s the preferred outcome? Get his votes on things that won’t lose his very red seat, or get his votes on everything short term and then lose his vote permanently?

There probably aren’t 30 Dem senators who would support Filibuster removal. It’s not popular. So he’s hardly alone there.

I’m worried about the future of the Dem party. The state level shenanigans by the GOP will permanently compromise the electoral process. Already the Dems need a 5% popular vote win to take the Senate.

I think I know how my own government works. I at least know enough about US politics to know it’s farking broken… that’s one reason why I left.

And I know what I support is not radical or unusual, and I know large majorities of other Americans support these things too.

One of the eight, Ms. “thumbs down” girl, was a green party activist who campaigned on raising the wage, and now she’s the poster-child for killing it.

I also think it is interesting that 2 of the 8 were from Biden’s home state of Delaware. Who knows what influence their boss may have had on that.

You’re right in a way - I don’t have any idea what platform these Democrats run on when they immediately become corrupted the second they take office. It just reinforces the belief that they are all talk and no action. That kind of thing has consequences when midterms roll around.

Bi-partisanship is overrated and meaningless if the legislation is watered down to where a lot of people still go hungry. I’m tired of Democrats hiding behind procedure and bi-partisanship as excuses to not get things accomplished. They are excuses. The parliamentarian nonsense is another good example - Biden or Harris could have easily overruled it, but they chose not to, which makes me believe they don’t support it. Or, more to the point, their donors don’t support it.

$7.25 is indefensible and I think most of the American population is tired of hearing excuses as to why we can’t raise it.

Good day to you sir.

If you have a Democrat that votes with the Republicans on everything, then what’s the point of electing a Democrat?

Whenever I ask the “vote blue no matter who” brigade this question, their heads explode.

Not sure why you’d say a lie like this just after Manchin voted a relief package through that every Republican voted no on.

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It’s a generalization.

The senate structurally favours the GOP. For Dems to have a majority, they need to win in red states, they need to attract red voters. That means that blue senators in red states cannot act the same as blue senators in blue states. It’s not a choice of having a purple dem vs replacing him with a blue dem. It’s a choice between a purple dem and a bright red republican.

The problem the Dems have is they need 3-4 purple senators to hold power. This means they will always struggle to get the final vote or two. The GOP can go full red and win the Senate, so they don’t need to compromise as much.

Now if Manchin was eyeing retirement, then odds are he’d go full blue in the final term. But as it stands he’s protecting his future electoral chances, which is in the long term benefit of the Democrat party.

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I think that’s always going to be the problem.

In that way, it feels like there will never be a true blue majority in the Senate for a long time, unless demographics change enough. In places like Texas I think it is happening slowly but may take awhile.

I looked into Manchin - he voted with Trump 50% of the time, and during the last two years of his admin, voted with him 60% of the time.

So while the original question isn’t literally true, there is truth in it.

I guess the real issue here is that a small Democratic majority doesn’t really fill me with a whole lot of optimism is if we have to rely on the votes of the Joe Manchin types in order to keep it.

That’s only one way of going about things. The obvious other one is fixing the broken gerrymandered system so the senate no longer structurally favours the GOP. Statehood for DC and/or Puerto Rico. A national public holiday on election day. Federal right-to-vote legislation that can help undermine the worst of the state-level voter suppression efforts that the Repubs have won for years.

Attracting red voters would be nice but it’s a secondary strategy, and in order to do it, you need to do too much stuff that makes people’s lives worse. Instead, the strategy should be to fix the system to make blue voters count as much as red voters, and to make it easier for blue voters to vote.

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I find it hard to reconcile why we are so interested in compromising with people who still think Trump is president and that attacking the US capitol was acceptable.

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Because you need 10 of them to actually pass anything outside of reconciliation???

Come on, you’re not this stupid.

Now you are just making this personal.

I think I’m done with this thread for awhile.

Too bad they are so stupid they keep electing Repub. Rsoles who will never support this. How stupid are those people.

In the Stimulus Bill, a Policy Revolution in Aid for Children

The $1.9 trillion pandemic relief package moving through Congress advances an idea that Democrats have been nurturing for decades: establishing a guaranteed income for families with children.

March 7, 2021Updated 5:03 p.m. ET

Anique Houpe, a single mother in Georgia, is among the parents whom Democrats are seeking to help with a plan to provide most families with a monthly check of up to $300 per child.Audra Melton for The New York Times

WASHINGTON — A year ago, Anique Houpe, a single mother in suburban Atlanta, was working as a letter carrier, running a side business catering picnics and settling into a rent-to-own home in Stone Mountain, Ga., where she thought her boys would flourish in class and excel on the football field.

Then the pandemic closed the schools, the boys’ grades collapsed with distance learning, and she quit work to stay home in hopes of breaking their fall. Expecting unemployment aid that never came, she lost her utilities, ran short of food and was recovering from an immobilizing bout of Covid when a knock brought marshals with eviction papers.

Depending on when the snapshot is dated, Ms. Houpe might appear as a striving emblem of upward mobility or a mother on the verge of homelessness. But in either guise, she is among the people Democrats seek to help with a mold-breaking plan, on the verge of congressional passage, to provide most parents a monthly check of up to $300 per child.

Obscured by other parts of President Biden’s $1.9 trillion stimulus package, which won Senate approval on Saturday, the child benefit has the makings of a policy revolution. Though framed in technocratic terms as an expansion of an existing tax credit, it is essentially a guaranteed income for families with children, akin to children’s allowances that are common in other rich countries.

The plan establishes the benefit for a single year. But if it becomes permanent, as Democrats intend, it will greatly enlarge the safety net for the poor and the middle class at a time when the volatile modern economy often leaves families moving between those groups. More than 93 percent of children — 69 million — would receive benefits under the plan, at a one-year cost of more than $100 billion.

The bill, which is likely to pass the House and be signed by Mr. Biden this week, raises the maximum benefit most families will receive by up to 80 percent per child and extends it to millions of families whose earnings are too low to fully qualify under existing law. Currently, a quarter of children get a partial benefit, and the poorest 10 percent get nothing.

While the current program distributes the money annually, as a tax reduction to families with income tax liability or a check to those too poor to owe income taxes, the new program would send both groups monthly checks to provide a more stable cash flow.

By the standards of previous aid debates, opposition has been surprisingly muted. While the bill has not won any Republican votes, critics have largely focused on other elements of the rescue package. Some conservatives have called the child benefit “welfare” and warned that it would bust budgets and weaken incentives to work or marry. But Senator Mitt Romney, Republican of Utah, has proposed a child benefit that is even larger, though it would be financed through other safety net cuts.

While the proposal took center stage in response to the pandemic, supporters have spent decades developing the case for a children’s income guarantee. Their arguments gained traction as science established the long-term consequences of deprivation in children’s early years, and as rising inequality undercut the idea that everyone had a fair shot at a better life.

The economic shock and racial protests of the past year brought new momentum to a plan whose reach, while broad, would especially help Black and Latino families, who are crucial to the Democrats’ coalition.

Mr. Biden’s embrace of the subsidies is a leftward shift for a Democratic Party that made deep cuts in cash aid in the 1990s under the theme of “ending welfare.” As a senator, Mr. Biden supported the 1996 welfare restrictions, and as recently as August his campaign was noncommittal about the child benefit.

The president now promotes projections that the monthly checks — up to $300 for young children and $250 for those over 5 — would cut child poverty by 45 percent, and by more than 50 percent among Black families.

“The moment has found us,” said Representative Rosa DeLauro, a Connecticut Democrat who has proposed a child allowance in 10 consecutive Congresses and describes it as a children’s version of Social Security. “The crystallization of the child tax credit and what it can do to lift children and families out of poverty is extraordinary. We’ve been talking about this for years.”

Ms. Houpe’s home state has been crucial to the advance of the benefit. Democrats are in position to enact it only because they won Georgia’s two Senate seats in runoff elections in January, barely gaining control of the chamber.

Ms. Houpe decided that she needed to stay home to care for her boys during the pandemic and left a job with the Postal Service that paid nearly $18 an hour.

Ms. Houpe decided that she needed to stay home to care for her boys during the pandemic and left a job with the Postal Service that paid nearly $18 an hour.Audra Melton for The New York Times

While Ms. Houpe, an independent, skipped the presidential election, that promise of cash relief led her to vote Democratic in January. “I just felt like the Democrats would be more likely to do something,” she said.

Her precarious situation is the kind the subsidy seeks to address. Born to a teenage mother, Ms. Houpe, 33, grew up straining to escape hardship. Though she was young when she had a child, she came close to finishing a bachelor’s degree, found work as pharmacy technician and took a job with the post office to lift her wage to nearly $18 an hour. Raising a son on her own, she took in a nephew whom she regards as a second child.

Ms. Houpe seemed on the rise before the pandemic, with the move to a new house. The monthly payment consumed 60 percent of her income, twice what the government deems affordable, but she trimmed the cost by renting out a room and started a side job catering picnics.

During the pandemic, she spent six months waiting for schools to reopen until the boys’ plummeting grades — Trejion is 14 and Micah 11 — persuaded her that she could not leave them alone.

“I had to make a decision,” Ms. Houpe said, “my boys or my job.”

But when her requests for unemployment were denied, the bottom fell out.

While critics fear cash aid weakens work incentives, Ms. Houpe said it might have saved her job by allowing her to hire someone part time to supervise the boys.

“I definitely would have kept my job,” she said.

If she had been receiving the child benefit last year, Ms. Houpe said, she would have used it to hire someone to help watch her boys so she could have kept her job.Audra Melton for The New York Times

The campaign for child benefits is at least a half-century old and rests on a twofold idea: Children are expensive, and society shares an interest in seeing them thrive. At least 17 wealthy countries subsidize child-rearing for much of the population, with Canada offering up to $4,800 per child each year. But until recently, a broad allowance seemed unlikely in the United States, where policy was more likely to reflect a faith that opportunity was abundant and a belief that aid sapped initiative.

It was a Democratic president, Bill Clinton, who abolished the entitlement to cash aid for poor families with children. The landmark law he signed in 1996 created time limits and work requirements and caused an exodus from the rolls. Spending on the poor continued to grow but targeted low-wage workers, with little protection for those who failed to find or keep jobs.

In a 2018 analysis of federal spending on children, the economists Hilary W. Hoynes and Diane Whitmore Schanzenbach found that virtually all the increases since 1990 went to “families with earnings” and those “above the poverty line.”

But rising inequality and the focus on early childhood brought broader subsidies a new look. A landmark study in 2019 by the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine showed that even short stints in poverty could cause lasting harm, leaving children with less education, lower adult earnings and worse adult health. Though welfare critics said aid caused harm, the panel found that “poverty itself causes negative child outcomes” and that income subsidies “have been shown to improve child well-being.”

Republicans may have unwittingly advanced the push for child benefits in 2017 by doubling the existing child tax credit to $2,000 and giving it to families with incomes of up to $400,000, but not extending the full benefit to those in the bottom third of incomes.

Republicans said that since the credit was meant to reduce income taxes, it naturally favored families who earned enough to have a tax liability. But by prioritizing the affluent, the move amplified calls for a more equitable child policy.

Efforts to increase the benefit and include the needy drew strong support from Speaker Nancy Pelosi and was led in the Senate by the Democrats Sherrod Brown of Ohio, a progressive, and Michael Bennet of Colorado, a centrist. A majority of Democrats in both chambers were on board when unemployment surged because of the coronavirus.

“The crisis gave Democrats an opportunity by broadening the demand for government relief,” said Sarah A. Binder, a political scientist at George Washington University.

Welfare critics warn the country is retreating from success. Child poverty reached a new low before the pandemic, and opponents say a child allowance could reverse that trend by reducing incentives to work. About 10 million children are poor by a government definition that varies with family size and local cost of living. (A typical family of four with income below about $28,000 is considered poor.)

“Why are Republicans asleep at the switch?” wrote Mickey Kaus, whose antiwelfare writings influenced the 1990s debate. He has urged Republicans to run ads in conservative states with Democratic senators, attacking them for supporting “a new welfare dole.”

Under Mr. Biden’s plan, a nonworking mother with three young children could receive $10,800 a year, plus food stamps and Medicaid — too little to prosper but enough, critics fear, to erode a commitment to work and marriage. Scott Winship of the conservative American Enterprise Institute wrote that the new benefit creates “a very real risk of encouraging more single parenthood and more no-worker families.”

But a child allowance differs from traditional aid in ways that appeal to some on the right. Libertarians like that it frees parents to use the money as they choose, unlike targeted aid such as food stamps. Proponents of higher birthrates say a child allowance could help arrest a decline in fertility. Social conservatives note that it benefits stay-at-home parents, who are bypassed by work-oriented programs like child care.

And supporters argue that it has fewer work disincentives than traditional aid, which quickly falls as earnings climb. Under the Democrats’ plan, full benefits extend to single parents with incomes of $112,500 and couples with $150,000.

Backlash could grow as the program’s sweep becomes clear. But Samuel Hammond, a proponent of child allowances at the center-right Niskanen Center, said the politics of aid had changed in ways that softened conservative resistance.

A quarter-century ago, debate focused on an urban underclass whose problems seemed to set them apart from a generally prospering society. They were disproportionately Black and Latino and mostly represented by Democrats. Now, insecurity has traveled up the economic ladder to a broader working class with similar problems, like underemployment, marital dissolution and drugs. Often white and rural, many are voters whom Republicans hope to court.

“Republicans can’t count on running a backlash campaign,” Mr. Hammond said. “They crossed the Rubicon in terms of cash payments. People love the stimulus checks.”

The muted opposition to the proposal, he said, showed that “people on the right are curious about the child benefit — not committed, but movable.”

An analysis by Sophie M. Collyer of Columbia University underscored the plan’s broad reach. She found that in Georgia, the child allowance would bring net gains per child of $1,700 for whites, $1,900 for Latinos and $2,100 for Blacks.

As a suburban independent in a state that was long red, Ms. Houpe is among those whose loyalties are up for grabs. She rejected the argument that a child subsidy would promote joblessness and warned that some parents had to work too much. “My son had football games every Saturday morning,” she said, “and I wasn’t there for him as much as I wanted to be.”

If aid posed risks, Ms. Houpe said, so did the lack of any. Out of money last fall, she suffered debilitating depression, and a panic attack grew so severe she pulled her car to the side of road. “My son was freaking out” looking for her asthma inhaler, she said.

Still trying to get unemployment benefits, Ms. Houpe has plans for a baking business called The Munchie Shopp. She has practiced strawberries dipped in white chocolate and honed her red velvet cake. This week, she tried dying one blue but denied making a political statement.

“During an election, people say anything to win,” she said. “Let’s see what they do.”

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He won’t stop grifting

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Trump ramping up his effort to strangle the GOP financially.
Gawd. These bozos deserve him.

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