That wasn’t the reason I was alluding to.
Fair enough.
But it has been mentioned as a reason. And perhaps a controversial one.
What was your reason?
I expect Trump to push for a 3% NATO member commitment. I don’t think he’ll abandon NATO, but he will threaten to do so in order to force member states to increase spending.
NATO doesn’t work without US logistics. The US is weaker without NATO.
But who knows. The high and medium calibre Republican staffers are mostly avoiding working for Trump. The types Trump is looking at have a large portion of charlatans and conspiracy nuts who are pushing what I’d consider to be batshit crazy wackjob ideas.
The foreign policy lead looks to be the guy who led the crackdown on Iran under Trump. So probably not the worst, but I’m not confident in a lot of the other picks that have been shared.
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Largely it’s still too early, particularly with California
California has counted 56% of the vote. With 5.7m vs 11.1m last time
New York has counted 92% of the vote with 4.3m vs 5.2m last time.
New Jersey has counted 94% of the vote with 2m vs 2.6m last time
That’s 6.9m of the gap in 3 states which will come down once it’s all called. A bunch of mid size states like Oregon, Washington and Maryland are only at 80% counted too.
The true reduction from last election will end up being much smaller, maybe around 5m and if alot of those votes are in solid blue states it’s not that relevant.
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Appreciate it.
I know you don’t want to be here.
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Project 2025 gonna hit like a bad trip
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Actually, Trump previously attempting to force other NATO nations to pull their weight is one of the things I have agreed with.
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I’m Batman. I’ll come when called, but otherwise will be invisible. 
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Hunter S Thompson allready did that.
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Ah stolen election etc.
Got it.
I mean…I get…
I’ve seen posters go too far and because they were on my ‘Side’ I have not reined them in.
But wow.
I mean…I‘be always known that through my silence I have at least somewhat aligned myself with those views.
And I should be better.
But oooooomfg…
2020 appears to be the outlier, which is bizarre. I can’t imagine there being THAT much enthusiasm for Joe Biden.
Enthusiasm for Biden + Enthusiasm for not Trump I guess.
I assume the Dem’s thought they could rely on that 2nd part again, apparently not so much.
I’d suspect Covid explains a bit for a variety of reasons.
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Concur…but the how’s and why’s…
I’d say a lot is repudiation of Trump and his handling of covid. It’s the solid blue states that are currently way down on voting not the battlegrounds. People wanted to vote against Trump last time even in states where the votes weren’t necessary like California and New York. This time it didn’t matter to them as much, so they didn’t.
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Many states had no/limited early/mail voting before 2020. If that suddenly becomes available and you don’t need to stand (in the cold?) for hours during work hours… you’d expect a bump.
(COVID was about 80,000 daily confirmed cases on election day, and rapidly rising.)
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