US politics - the new orange wave (Part 7)

Yes I do. He will likely do some crazy things

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Careful there, or you’ll be called out for false equivalence by the usual suspects when the facts don’t fit the narrative.
Of all the pseudoscience peddled, false equivalence is the cheapest trick , along with Wotaboutism,

I’m agreeing and clealy stated he shouldn’t be AG; we’re just differing on the reason why.

You are right that a court making a ruling on the balance of probabilities after examining the evidence is a different kettle of fish.

The main thing I disliked about your post was the insinuation that:

FFS, he has been nominated for the highest legal job in the land…he should be squeaky clean…he’s been accused of paying underage girls to have sex…how can people not be outraged?

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As if! They will not stand up to Trump unless this was their final term anyway.

I’ve seen a few things on Youtube this morning that indicate that there are a few that might actually stand up and be counted…(we can but hope).

He was also charged with taking them across State lines which in the US is a more serious ā€œFederalā€ offence. Lucky for him, he is AG so can make all that go away.

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They dropped the charges, unreliable witnesses. His mate (who got 11 years) was also too much of a degenerate so Gaetz’s lawyers were able to have him discounted. Comparing Gaetz to Biden and Shorten is utterly ludicrous however. He’s clearly a rotten, rotten person and bragged about rooting girls on the Senate floor. Were he a Dem he’d have been destroyed long ago, probably by his own.

Trump could nominate Ghislaine Maxwell for head of the education department and @Lawry would find a way to justify it

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When abortion is a State issue, but when someone crosses State lines to seek an abortion banned in their State, is that a Federal offence?
(Another version of the Mann Act?).

Oh stop being so over dramatic……she was found guilty of shocking crimes and of course I would never endorse that.

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I dunno, seemed like a pretty calm call to me

What’s your view on Trump then?

The lunatics are now in control of the asylum.

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He’s a lunatic and I wouldn’t have voted for him. I don’t like the appointments of Gaetz and JFK jr. America got what they voted for

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I think you’re overestimating the degree to which this is planned.

My assessment of Trump is that he isn’t interested in policy. He’s interested in people who’ll be personally loyal, flattering, and subservient to him. So he ends up with a retinue of the toadies who were best at tonguing his danglers, with no regard given to what their actual policy agendas are.

This whole business is a case in point. RFK is all about natural health. He wants to ban all sorts of chemicals in food. But Trump has already committed to abolishing the EPA and lowering regulation. So they’re trying to regulate one area of the economy more heavily, while disbanding the authority that regulates that part of the economy, and having a general governmental principle of decreasing regulation. Oh, but it gets worse. RFK has a big hit list of chemicals he wants out of food, and wants people to eat more fresh and less packaged stuff. Trump has been campaigning on lowering food prices. A lot of the chemicals used in food production are fertilisers, pesticides, and preservative agents. Banning or restricting these means less food grown, more lost to pests, and more lost to spoilage before it gets to the table. So food supply will lessen, which will inevitably drive prices up. (Yes, there’s natural alternatives to some of these substances, but they tend to me more expensive and less effective, which is why organic veg at the supermarket tend to be smaller and more expensive than the regular stuff). And of course, food safety regulation is also in the chopping block, so more of this spoiled, pest-ridden food will make it in to shelves, which will result in more mas -fatality food poisoning events like happened last time Trump did this even at a much smaller scale. And what sort of food is most likely to be a vector of food poisoning? FRESH food of course, simply because it hasn’t had the processing which kills a lot of contaminants. So you’re creating a supply of fresh food which is smaller, more expensive, and much more prone to contamination, and you expect people to eat MORE of it?

Theres no policy coherence here. Trump has goals that sound good in soundbites - less regulation, more fresh food, less chemicals, cheaper food! But there’s no sign that ANYONE involved is aware that there’s a balancing act between these goals, or a strategy for meeting them. And that’s inevitable when the purpose of your government is entirely revolving around servicing one man’s ego and bank balance, and you appoint people with that goal in mind and all policy considerations secondary.

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It will be implemented by the Head of the New Department of School Lunches:

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Sounds like Andy McGrath giving a press conference in August about how we are going to turn things around

Dammit…stop spoiling my illusions (delusions???) :wink:

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