US politics - waiting to see, it’s only July 2025 (part 9)

Just about the definition of MAGA

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Trump has been bankrupt six times. Who does he owe for bailing him out ?? Not Zelenskyy…

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I like how every day his people are like ‘he wont do that’ and each day hes like “I ■■■■■■■ will”

That only matters if you think Trump ever intends to pay back what he owes.

I kinda think it matters when you know that the bank who kept him going was funded mainly from Russia and a lot of people who kept buying his apartments were from Russia and even Eric told a journalist early on in the piece that they didn’t need funding from the US as they had it all coming from … you guessed it, Russia.

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The sooner the better.

Really? Any actual evidence?

My evidence would be that Rino’s and centrists like McCain and Romney aren’t part of the Republican Party anymore, whereas the really left Dems like AOC and Mandamo can’t even get endorsement from the Dem establishment.

In Australia the LNP has ditched the centre to the Teals and are adopting Nationals’ policy, while the Greens policy has hardly changed in 20 years.

But then anyone delusional enough to think Labour is run by its left wing is obviously ignorant. I wonder when they’ll start proposing even semi-left policy?

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FTFY

Labor is run by the Left factions. But what the fark is in a name ? They may be Labor Left in NSW and Qld and Socialist Left in Victoria but they are in reality just groups who vote together to have power. The ALP agenda, both policy and especially action is not Left or Socialist,

And I have been a Socialist Left member since 1971.

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ALP

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The March of Tyranny (American political cartoon by Ben Garrison, 2010)


Annuit cœptis “Providence has favored our undertakings”
Novus ordo seclorum “New order of the ages”

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I know by this point it’s extremely moot and hypothetical due to “the circumstances” (which i’m calling the current era), but if Clinton was indicted for lying about a blowie, shouldn’t Trump be indicted for lying about being on the pedo-plane?

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You make the fundamental error in thinking those running the US are not 100% hypocritical Rsoles.

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Clinton was under oath, Trump (to the best of my knowledge) has not testified under oath on the Epstein stuff. Not to diminish the fact that it does no credit whatsoever to the Dems of the time who let Clinton avoid impeachment for perjury on purely partisan grounds, despite the wildly partisan nature of the Starr inquiry his guilt isnt really under serious question.

The legal difference is non-trivial. Of course, the Rs are right now letting Trump skate on many, many more serious criminal matters from fraud to sexual assault to the theft of classified documents, so there’s no real high ground to be found to the right.

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It was a G, if hypothetical, Q, so thank you.
I thought perhaps it might have been because Clinton actually said it in an address to the nation, but…okay he said it in a…what, Senate Inquiry?

He had to submit a sworn statement to the Starr inquiry. The details are fuzzy in my memory and the subject of much hair-splitting legal debate, and he miiiight have gotten off after very carefully phrasing his deceptions so he could vaguely plausibly be able to defend them in court if it came down to that … but realistically, guilty as sin. And he’s a creep, too.

(Autocorrect wanted to correct ‘guilty as sin’ to ‘guilty as don’ in that second last sentence, which is … ironic!)

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Oh, I’m certainly not defending the guy.

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Yes. Victoria Labor, National Labor. Queensland Labor now dominated by the ‘left’ flank.