Well Ants, there is your proof there provided by dmapes. What more evidence do you need?
What the hell policies of the ALP, or even rhetoric, do you think are ‘far’ left?
Gay marriage?
Only ‘some of the right’. But a ‘sizeable portion of the left’. Dmapes you learned your weasel words well at Johnny’s teat. Uncy Donald has carte blanche to lie as freely as air but you kind of have to back up your utter nonsense with at least something better than ‘agree to disagree’ or you’re trolling with that ■■■■.
I mean…left is nationalising childcare.
Far left is compulsorily acquiring and nationalising our resources.
The ALP isn’t even left.
Left would be looking at sectors that have very obvious corporate rorting and providing a government owned and run alternative.
A bank.
A supermarket.
A childcare service.
A freaking petrol station chain.
Not taking over the whole sector, but at least providing an option and a benchmark to keep the private profiteers in check.
That would be left.
The ALP does none of that, and wouldn’t even dream of doing it.
The ALP is centre-right.
That evil far left want us to be like Norway.
And, horror of horrors, social housing and fixed rent concepts. The landlords shiver in their beds in fear of sizeable portions of the centre right moving rapidly to the ‘extreme left’ and setting fire to their gains!
And Venezuela.
Gough was tough ‘til he hit the rough, hey…
the alp is firmly centre and does what a government should do . that’s why they are on power because we usually only vote for centre governments . this is why it’s hard to ever see the liberals and nationals ever in power again in their present form. they might fall back i if they can manage a sort of coalition with one nation in a hung parliamebt scenario, but can you imagine what that might look like and how quickly it would fall apart
the sheer amount of sears they need to get back makes it virtually impossible .
I see the centre line between right and left as a good mix between public and private, economically.
I do not think we have that now and see absolutely no desire to move that needle from the ALP.
On social issues…I mean the Wiccan golden rule seems centrist to me.
The right’s obsession with what people do in bed or how people dress feels creepy as hell, but I dunno.
I think the the liberals politicisation of Bondi will also bite them eventually
The ‘whacky left’ won’t even ban gambling ads.
They won’t even ban gambling ads disguised as legitimate content.
I get this might sound a bit daft to many…but I am so sick of left v right global narrative - its causing us to go backwards so fast. What it has done is pidgeon holed people’s beliefs, and we get now algorithms on social media and news that program you to think one way for their own financial benefit…and we are falling for it. I just wish people could think for themselves more. What did you learn growing up? what ae your values? Get better in tune on how you react to a loved one sick or abused and let that reflect on society and how you can look at that overall. So many times, I see people arguing for politicians who are putting policies down that makes their life worse, but they cheer it on because they are on their left or right team. Think for you f…n self. Use your own experience, humanity and brain. Challenge your leaders or praise them no matter what party they are on if they put in actions that meet or don’t meet your values and humanity. I didnt like Obama’s obsession with drone bombing. I didn’t like Biden funding a genocide. I don’t like Trumps imperialistic desires. I liked Obama at least trying to address healthcare and lowering rhetoric and being calm and talking to everyone. I like that Biden looked at fixing Infrastructure which was crumbling and did reasonably well addressing economy and jobs coming out of covid. I even yes thought the Abraham Accord treaty in 2020 with Trump had merit. This term I am ok to say Trump has lost his way completely based on my values and love for democracy and people feeling safe and secure. That’s how I think and each person and situation I think on it independently. Makes me feel sane.
and divisions within the U.S. political system along party lines has also been highly weaponized and ruthlessly propagated by Authoritarian political systems in certain “adversarial” countries to meddle in the U.S. political system(and not just the U.S. but in many democratic societies): the goal being the exploitation and exacerbation of existing political disagreements so as to raise tensions and promote division, weaken the social fabric and to sow confusion, distrust and chaos to try to lead to the breakdown of the social compact, norms of liberal civil society and systems of good governance.
I would say that it has largely worked in the U.S. …
No… Bias towards pro large intake on immigration. Overly ambitious renewables targets driving energy policy. Both resulting in higher for longer inflation, higher than many developed countries around the world feeding into higher cost of living.
Drill baby drill
Or just invade and steal I guess
Evidence?
I dug into the immigration stats a few months back and there hasn’t been any boom in immigration. There has been a catch up spike where overseas students who missed study due to Covid have arrived late for their courses. That is starting to turn into a departure spike as those same students finish and go home. Underlying permanent migration has been consistent with Scomo.
Renewables aren’t driving inflation. The periods of each day where renewables set the price are always cheaper than when coal or gas sets the price. The market data just doesn’t support that claim. Australia’s residential energy price is 39c/kWh vs the OECD average of 38c/kWh. We are as average as you can get.
Average OECD inflation since 2020 has been 34%. Australia’s inflation has been 22% over that period.
Ahahahahahahahahaha.
Thanks, I needed that.

