Violence Against Women

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Putting aside that capital punishment is abhorrent in my opinion, and lowers the state to the level of the perpetrator,.

I’m not necessarily for capital punishment, however i’ve never understood that line of thinking.

Why is it that to be morally superior we have to sit around and support people who choose not to live by a code the majority of us decide to ?

again don’t think capital punishment is the answer, but neither is letting these guys live out the rest of their lives, with the only real downside to their actions is they can’t leave a sq footage of area. they still end up with just as much if not more rights in jail, than their victims do.

The words of a man who has never been deprived of his liberty.

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Surely there are studies that can confirm this.

There are plenty of studies that have deen done on capital punishment as a deterent, especially in the Sates. The results are not consistnet, but in a number of those studies, crime/murder rates have actually gone up with the (re)introduction of captial punishment.

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Surely there are studies that can confirm this.

There are plenty of studies that have deen done on capital punishment as a deterent, especially in the Sates. The results are not consistnet, but in a number of those studies, crime/murder rates have actually gone up with the (re)introduction of captial punishment.

the United States though is a touch comparison as they have guns available too. What about areas where there were no guns available?

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Surely there are studies that can confirm this.

There are plenty of studies that have deen done on capital punishment as a deterent, especially in the Sates. The results are not consistnet, but in a number of those studies, crime/murder rates have actually gone up with the (re)introduction of captial punishment.

Well given that if you live in a ghetto such as Compton etc, your life expectancy is greater on death row than it is in your neighbourhood, that’s hardly surprising.

Yes, it just beggers belief that these psychopaths are allowed to run around amongst law abiding citizens and create havoc, misery, and terror because an incompetent legal system and Parole Board are just so out of touch of what community believes is fair, just and conducive to a safe environment.

Just as an aside, and some may already know this, the “esteemed” chairman of the AFL Tribunal (member since 2004) and the lead adjudicator of our supplements saga, David Jones, also holds a senior position on the Victorian Parole Board. I’m not suggesting he is responsible and has made mistakes but it cannot be denied that an organisation he works for has ****ed up.

You will also note that I have not referred to Jones as a judge as he retired from judicial duties sometime before 2004. Ex-judge maybe.

The major problem with capital punishment is that ultimately, it’s determined by politicians who are populist by nature.

Election coming up - we need to show that we’re tough on law and order - let’s juice some poor impoverished uneducated bloke. I’d rather put the needle into recidivist scum like Bayley.

Surely they’ve got to improve the record-keeping so that repeat violent offenders are’t permitted bail, and aren’t permitted parole.

I get annoyed when they keep saying that people should be able to take ridiculous risks because they should be safe, in particular women walking through parks at night.

I wouldn’t walk through parks at night. It’s just straight-out dumb. And even worse if you’re as full as a fat bloke’s sock.

Capital punishment should be a poll. Let the people decide.

Everybody has a reference number and they can poll away.

Hell all large criminal cases should be polls and the people need to decide.

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I get annoyed when they keep saying that people should be able to take ridiculous risks because they should be safe, in particular women walking through parks at night.

I wouldn’t walk through parks at night. It’s just straight-out dumb. And even worse if you’re as full as a fat bloke’s sock.

I agree.

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Capital punishment should be a poll. Let the people decide.

Everybody has a reference number and they can poll away.

Hell all large criminal cases should be polls and the people need to decide.

also stupid

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The major problem with capital punishment is that ultimately, it's determined by politicians who are populist by nature.

Election coming up - we need to show that we’re tough on law and order - let’s juice some poor impoverished uneducated bloke. I’d rather put the needle into recidivist scum like Bayley.

Surely they’ve got to improve the record-keeping so that repeat violent offenders are’t permitted bail, and aren’t permitted parole.


Pretty much all of this.
Masa Vukotic case not dis-similar, repeat offender, history of rape and violence.
If someone commits one nasty crime, fair enough there’s got to be some chance of them changing and some leniency to sentencing, but once you do it again and again, the penalties should go up exponentially.

Main problem with capital punishment besides it being abhorrent and primitive is that it becomes populist. Stunning young lady murdered will always get stronger emotions than the nondescript 45 year guy murdered.

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Main problem with capital punishment besides it being abhorrent and primitive is that it becomes populist. Stunning young lady murdered will always get stronger emotions than the nondescript 45 year guy murdered.

You have a problem with engineering for beautiful people?

I thought the main problem with capital punishment is the possibility of killing an innocent person.

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I thought the main problem with capital punishment is the possibility of killing an innocent person.
Nah the main issue with it, is that it's not a deterrent. If the statistics showed that the death penalty reduced the crime rate, just about every other country would be all over it.

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I thought the main problem with capital punishment is the possibility of killing an innocent person.
Nah the main issue with it, is that it's not a deterrent. If the statistics showed that the death penalty reduced the crime rate, just about every other country would be all over it.

It is pretty effective against repeat offenders though.

Theres been at least one case in this country of a death sentence being commuted and that person then going on to murder someone else.

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Theres been at least one case in this country of a death sentence being commuted and that person then going on to murder someone else.

And your point is?

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Theres been at least one case in this country of a death sentence being commuted and that person then going on to murder someone else.

And your point is?

Merely that it follows on from Wim’s quip that it prevents repeat offenders.

Now this is ■■■■■■ up.