What annoys you? Extra time

You really should improve your preformance.

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I feel that I know what Wim means, but he may have changed tact, so I’ll let him speak to that.

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Looks like it’s your ball court wim

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I could care less.

Yeah…Foot and Mouth Disease

If only less people cared about this. There’d be fewer tension in society.

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I don’t know

3rd base!

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Verification codes that take more than 1 second to turn up.

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“pm” is post-meridium (after midday). “am” is ante-meridium (before midday).

12 noon is midday. It can’t be 12 hours after itself. If it was, it would be midnight.

OTOH, 12 am is reasonable - 12 hours before midday.

am and pm are classifications rather than descriptions (or dynamic values) though.

So 12 pm doesn’t mean “12 after midday”, it means “12: after midday”.

If both before and after exclude ‘equal to’, and meridiem means midday, then 12 am and 12 pm must both be midnight!?!

Which was my entire point. One second either way clears it up, but it is incredibly dangerous to say something starts at 12pm or 12am.

If you know that 12 indicates the start of the block of 12 hours in time relative to the meridian aka midday.

It’s then obviously follows 12am is midnight and 12pm is midday.

It’s a stupid way of defining it but it is pretty obvious.

I know I always count 12, 1, 2, 3…

As it a silly definition. 12 hrs before, 12 hours after, starting at 12 and all that.

In real world if someone says to you let’s meet at 12:30pm, you are not expecting an overnight catch up. So it follows if someone says let’s catch up at 12:00pm again you are not expecting an overnight catch up.

Simple for most to understand. I say most as obviously the pedants will find fault in most things to complicate things of course.

I’ll put you down as against a shift to the duodecimal system.

5 - 12 = 5

But… also…
5 + 12 = 5.

Perplexingly…

Yes and that is what I said. That is the logical inconsistency