2022 trade speculation (Part 2)

[Bombers2013]

He will strengthen our VFL team.

[Ants]

@SplitRound

Surely it’s not their list manager’s fault that the coaches didn’t play the player? List managers gave the big contract, player wasn’t performing as far as the coaches were concerned, player got dumped. Turns out coaches were idiots.

Still a risk. The comment I was responding to is that if the long-term contract doesn’t work you can just salary dump them. I’m saying that only works in some circumstances and is usually still painful.

[HirdMentality]

@Ants

@HirdMentality

Who is at the Giants who we could take in a Brodie-type “player and a pick” for salary cap relief? It seems like unlike GCS who had paid overs to many players to keep them around after their first contract the Giants have paid a few stars a kings ransom to keep them from leaving and now don’t have the ability to offload them because they have built their team around them.

Would they be up for offloading Haynes and Ward? Both would bring some much needed leadership for a year or two, even if they are cooked / playing a position we are well stocked for. Ward might be a decent option for a coaching position plus 1-year playing VFL. Haynes would be an upgrade on Kelly.

This works when either the club selling adds in something juicy, or the receiving club would like the players if free. Frankly, I don’t think we want those guys for 1-2 years at the cost of $2-$3m in cap (total). There should be cheaper ways to get some experience/leadership.

Now, it they were willing to offer draft picks we might consider it.

Yeah I’d only be offering to help them out by taking contracts off their books or handing them some extra cap space if they were sending one of their first round picks back our way.

TBH if the AFL really wanted to help with equalisation and their expansion clubs then they should allow direct trading of cap space for drafts picks. ie we trade 500k of our TPP in '23 and '24 for pick 12 in the '22 draft. The giants would be the biggest beneficiaries as they need more cap space not draft picks.

It would also help bottom sides to that struggle to fill their cap and are forced to over pay for their players

[Captain_Jack]

He fell out of favour, but is the sort of player we need to consider, for our midfield. Ollie Henry is the one l would still like us to get, if at all possible. I would not consider the older Giants, not even for just one season, they do not fit the demographic of our developing list. Let the Tigers and Port go all in one last push for a flag. Good luck to them.

[Ants]

You can’t give another club salary cap. You can only take an existing contract.

[Stressed_out]

I didn’t realise that Stocker won FC’s Best Young Player just last year. He fell out of favour quickly.

[millagurnzie1]

Maybe he just hates FC as much as we do? Good man

[Mainland251]

Yeah whats the deal there, really surprised he didn’t get another contract. Just checked out a few highlights and he has all the attributes and can play multiple areas of the ground. Sounds like an ankle injury has hampered him this year. I wonder if they had too much pressure on their salary cap or too many of a similar player…

I say get him in.

[SillyBilly]

True that.

[Nomoretears]

Totally agree on Stocker and Henry.Two players we should be looking at

[Josh]

If we get stocker I hope he plays againest Carlton. I would pay his fine if he took out saad

[Lawry]

@Kingston_Town

If Port get Rankine & Junior Rioli, where does that leave Fantasia?

In the modified group doing rehab

[Bomber_Billy]

Richmond doing an awesome job of rebuilding on the fly.

I’m a big fan of building the list by trade and FA but it only works if you’ve got a good culture with strong coaching and systems in place.

I still believe the SSSS acquisitions in totality were very good for the strength of our list, but it all means nothing when the whole club top to bottom is a rabble.

[Tagger]

@Bomber_Billy

I still believe the SSSS acquisitions in totality were very good for the strength of our list, but it all means nothing when the whole club top to bottom is a rabble.

Also appears that many of the SSSS only further contributed to the culture problem, rather than helping fix it.

[brady]

I think he looks worth the punt.

[need4speed]

Setterfield is another one who was supposed to be better than has become.

Wonder if he’s worth a punt

[Sameolds2010]

@Nomoretears

Totally agree on Stocker and Henry.Two players we should be laughing at

Fixed.

[Sameolds2010]

@Josh

If we get stocker I hope he plays againest Carlton. I would pay his fine if he took out saad

All Australian saad?

Sorry I’m using a metric that might not be approved by some absolute champs of blitz.

Like using Brownlow votes instead of innuendo and rumor.

What am I thinking.

[Benny40]

Say there’s a hypothetical poster who hasn’t been paying attention to this thread…

What’s the quick for and against on Stocker? All I really know is he’s been delisted and SOS thought he was the 6th best player in his draft.

[Saucy]

Same issues that hindered Parish & Francis.

Mental health issues & not being played in proper position.