He was good in 2016 but has fallen of a cliff since verging on de-list material.
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Love the bloke but liability that will cost us (more) games
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Didnāt think Hartley was that bad. FFS, heās only 25 and some of the big boys (1.99m) take time to develop. On Thursday he had 14 possessions (13 kicks at 85% efficiency!), 3 marks (could/should have more) and 7 (!) tackles. Iād say heās doing his job and providing a good avenue out of defence. Donāt forget Carlton had 62 inside 50ās so the defence needed to defend a lot of the time. Yeah, heāll scrag from time to time but his good outweighs the other stuff. Heās backup at this stage but can see him being a regular in the next year or 2.
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I liked Hartleyās game.
People seem to forget we have two incredible All Australian backmen in Hurley and Hooker.
The real issue for us this season I think will be midfield defensive pressure. We are still a lightweight (although talented) midfield. With the 6 6 6(or satans ruleš), I think midfield pressure will be even more critical.
In my opinion Hartley is a lot like Smack in that he makes some silly football decisions over and over again.
All the skills though, except perhaps he isnāt a strong mark.
Gives away too many dumb frees and really needs to improve his marking. Would love to see him impose himself a bit more but seems far too timid for his size. Backup only at this stage but even then Iād rather see Berzerker get a go ahead of him
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He only gave away 1 free kick and actually received 2.
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Love the guy, seems super popular and know he tries his guts out, but still worry about the dumb, costly shiiit. Could see it happening in a crucial moment in a final and that scares the fk out of me.
Ordinary at best.
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Love the guy, seems super popular and know he tries his guts out, but still worry about the dumb, costly shiiit. Could see it happening in a crucial moment in a final and that scares the fk out of me.
His Hair is really making him stand out. Itās like when Ackermanis did it to get noticed for the Brownlow but Hartley is doing it to get noticed for the vacant whipping boy position.
I kept thinking in the game - yes Francis is sitting under this inside 50, I can relax, nek minute, hartley
Went from solid lock down defender in 2016 who would fist anything coming near his man out of the stadium to being so terrified he gives away a free every second time the ball is kicked near him
Is the complete opposite of the player in 2016 in attitude, wish heād just go back to flying at the ball and marking it / the big fist
Hurley as well is going this way, he was one of the competitions best when he went for his own mark / attacked the ball
Both these guys are now trying to just wrestle their opponents, thatās not their style, who is teaching them to play their worst?
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Gone at the end of year, along with Stewart who will probably be traded to Saints or North.
Imo he is too slow and too weak, and doesnāt have a great tank.
These days KPFs have at least one stand out physical feature and all Hartley has is his height, so he is always opposed to a forward who has at least one advantage over him, which explains why he gives away so many free kicks.
How about we wait about 26 weeks (ideally 31, allowing for a premiership) before writing blokes off?
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Pretty sure he performed one of the most significant on field courage acts in the past few years.
2 weeks in a row
It certainly is a bold hair-do
Worthy of any Gryffindor, especially a Weasley
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