COME ON LEROY!
I think Jetta was the perfect example of a young man who has got to AFL football by having a pure nous for the game. Then losing his natural instincts on the football field, from being over coached.
His first year under Sheedy was pure gold.
He got very lost under the Knights' reign.
Hird worked really hard with him, to re ignite his instinctive football. But I think it was just too late.
Along similar lines, I don't think it was being over coached, just merely the tactics of the game developed so fast, and he like many can't be both an instinctive footballer while being able to maintain the structure needed.
In saying that it's a chicken/egg argument in that is it him who couldn't keep his structure when the whole team has/had to defend, or is it other factors, including other players not sticking to their required task.
Case in point, if the ball keeps rebounding out of our fwd 50, is it Jetta and other small forwards who aren't setting up properly, and working hard defensively.
or is it the midfield player who either blindly kicks it long, or kicks it to a 2-1 not in our favour, knowing that our plan of attack is to have extra numbers in the midfield and run the ball out of trouble.
Jetta like so many before him, have been an easy target to just assume it's him not doing his job, rather than focussing on the biggest culprits of why things aren't working for us.
He could of been a contender
He could have been almost anything.
Genuine question - do you actually understand the issue I've brought up?Along similar lines, I don't think it was being over coached, just merely the tactics of the game developed so fast, and he like many can't be both an instinctive footballer while being able to maintain the structure needed.
I think Jetta was the perfect example of a young man who has got to AFL football by having a pure nous for the game. Then losing his natural instincts on the football field, from being over coached.
His first year under Sheedy was pure gold.
He got very lost under the Knights' reign.
Hird worked really hard with him, to re ignite his instinctive football. But I think it was just too late.
In saying that it's a chicken/egg argument in that is it him who couldn't keep his structure when the whole team has/had to defend, or is it other factors, including other players not sticking to their required task.
Case in point, if the ball keeps rebounding out of our fwd 50, is it Jetta and other small forwards who aren't setting up properly, and working hard defensively.
or is it the midfield player who either blindly kicks it long, or kicks it to a 2-1 not in our favour, knowing that our plan of attack is to have extra numbers in the midfield and run the ball out of trouble.
Jetta like so many before him, have been an easy target to just assume it's him not doing his job, rather than focussing on the biggest culprits of why things aren't working for us.
Some of us actually sit up high and can see who is and who isn't keeping a zone. Take off the tin foil hat, get to an Etihad game and sit near the front of level 3 where I do, watch what happens "off-camera" and you won't have to rely on assumptions. Best place to watch footy from.
Chicken/egg argument is rubbish, we often had 17 blokes trying to do one thing and 1 who's in the wrong spot.
Midfield turnovers is a complete cop-out. The coach who works out how to never have a team turn it over will earn $50M a year. The bit about "running it out of trouble" - is that even anything like our main gameplan for ball movement? Emphasis is on quick disposal rather than running it. High disposal numbers (2nd), very low number of running bounces (17th) back that up.
You're just guessing, and not even very well.
Will dominate.Leroy had the skills, just not the mentality. Will probably do very nicely at the next level down.
Watched him at VFL, he did not dominate. Put him into Country footy and he will play OK but will not dominate. Not hard enough at the ball.
I reckon the hard work and application side of footy is totally under rated. Anytime a footballer with skill doesn’t make it, it’s because they didn’t work hard enough. Maybe we don’t appreciate just how hard you have to work to make it? Maybe they are not purposely throwing away an opportunity - they just don’t have the required skillset mentally to make it in the AFL system. Maybe Leroy worked as hard as he could?
I reckon the hard work and application side of footy is totally under rated. Anytime a footballer with skill doesn't make it, it's because they didn't work hard enough. Maybe we don't appreciate just how hard you have to work to make it? Maybe they are not purposely throwing away an opportunity - they just don't have the required skillset mentally to make it in the AFL system. Maybe Leroy worked as hard as he could?
Maybe I'm amazed at the way you love me - all the time.
Watch Leroy’s highlights backwards and you’ll find a recipie for a really ripping lentil soup!
I reckon the hard work and application side of footy is totally under rated. Anytime a footballer with skill doesn't make it, it's because they didn't work hard enough. Maybe we don't appreciate just how hard you have to work to make it? Maybe they are not purposely throwing away an opportunity - they just don't have the required skillset mentally to make it in the AFL system. Maybe Leroy worked as hard as he could?
yep, there's plenty of reasons that lead to any player not making it, but so many just lump a player in the oh he didn't work hard enough basket.
The odd thing is, how long is it now since we've had a legit great small forward ?
Two reasons for mine
It's either a bad drafting/ development thing
or
it's the reason they don't develop, is cos their poor performance is a by product of other players poor performance, but is masked.
An example would be, I don't think Rioli would be anywhere near the player he is and has been if he was to have been drafted by us.
Yet if you put Jetta into the Hawks set up, he'd prolly be miles better than he has been at this club.
It's just over simplistic to say oh he didn't try hard enough or that, cos as you say who knows how hard he has or hasn't tried.
LEEEEEEEEEEEEROY
ROOKIE SPOT BOMBERS 2015
Not sure why people are still hanging ■■■■■ on Jetta, it didn’t work out but he left the club graciously and respectfully…
Stop sinking the boots in.
Not sure why people are still hanging ■■■■■ on Jetta, it didn't work out but he left the club graciously and respectfully......
Stop sinking the boots in.
Exactly. It's over, have some class.
Not sure why people are still hanging ■■■■■ on Jetta, it didn't work out but he left the club graciously and respectfully......
Stop sinking the boots in.
top 10 post of 2014 right here.
Not sure why people are still hanging ■■■■■ on Jetta, it didn't work out but he left the club graciously and respectfully......
Stop sinking the boots in.
LEEEEEEEEEEEEROY
ROOKIE SPOT BOMBERS 2015
I was not following overly closely in his first year or two, how bad was his hammy(ies) early on? It seems like he lost a huge amount of toe from those first couple of years. Or maybe that has to do with the size he put on.
I was not following overly closely in his first year or two, how bad was his hammy(ies) early on? It seems like he lost a huge amount of toe from those first couple of years. Or maybe that has to do with the size he put on.
yeah he definitely got bigger over the last 2 seasons, the difference was seen watching him land (occasional) tackles and Alwyn Davey literally bounce off opponents when trying to tackle them
but the down-side was he lost some speed
I was not following overly closely in his first year or two, how bad was his hammy(ies) early on? It seems like he lost a huge amount of toe from those first couple of years. Or maybe that has to do with the size he put on.
Was he ever quick (straight line) ?
I never saw that. Moves well but he was never a genuine speedster IMHO.
He was never a Lewis Jetta, but he was pretty quick (by my fading memories). Found space around the 40m to 70m zone a lot.
He was never a Lewis Jetta, but he was pretty quick (by my fading memories). Found space around the 40m to 70m zone a lot.
There was a reason for that and it wasn't speed or workrate...