But what if the midfield is performing well?
IMO he should get left out unless there is a clear need for another pacy outside midfielder
If fit I canāt see how he isnāt best 22. People calling him a bust might be right in the sense heās not the superstar we wanted. But heās going to allways be better than some of our lessor players.
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Bad luck for Shiel but great for our development.
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Thatās just ridiculous. We overpaid, but he isnāt a bust at all.
He was very good in 2019 and 2020 pre-suspension. He wasnāt the only one that fell off in the hub.
Hope he has a successful recovery in time for the 2022 preseason.
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I guess my point was that if the whole midfield unit is functioning well and we are winning games, then even the last selected midfielder would be hard done by to lose their spot to someone who has been out for 4 months.
I do agree that ultimately that will likely be the case though, someone will miss out
That pre suspension stuff is nonsense. A good player wonāt let a suspension deter them.
We brought in him because we thought he would be pivotal in winning a premiership. We have subsequently realised we are a good half decade off even competing for a flag.
In that sense, and now with him missing a full season, combined with the cluster ā ā ā ā of 2020, I canāt see how this trade is holding well for us at all.
The reason he was brought in is no longer viable. In that sense the trade is a bust.
Hopefully his trade value increases while heās out, whoās in the window and willing to part with a late 1st rounderā¦
Has still got 3 years left after this one. Way too early to be writing it off as a bust.
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from a trades perspective, hes the outside speed geelong really need.
Twat thing to post.
Heās been great.
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What do we do with him when weāre 21-1 when the finals start?
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Straight swap for Parfit.
well seeing weāre already 1-2 Iād say we are right.
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Thank you for the scintillating input.
Yeah, there is thatā¦ 
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I only realised recently he was 28.
Heās not so much a bust he was just the wrong player to target. We could have spent those picks much better.
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He made sense when our age profile was a bit older.
Losing Daniher, Saad, Fantasia and McKenna and replacing them with younger players changes things a little.
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It has.
It hasnāt changed the fact heās 50 times the player of Caldwell and Aiden fkg Bonar put together.
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Heāll only get traded if he is the one that initiates it, and I can only see him doing that if he is desperate for a flag and doesnāt wanna go through our rebuild which could take anywhere from 2-5 years.
Hopefully his surgery goes well and he doesnāt have ongoing issues which is common in meniscus injuries. He is a very professional footballer which will help mitigate any longterm concerns about his knee
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