A couple of reasons,
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I don’t like to exist in an echo chamber.
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I actually think listening to the views of others even stuff i don’t agree with helps me better understand the world.
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I don’t judge people by how they vote.
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Before the Split in 1955, the Cain Labor Government implemented a significant program of public housing. In part expenditure on public housing was made possible by the decision to make the MCG the premier venue for the 1956 Olympics.The previous Government had planned to make Princess Park the main stadium , at a major cost to the budget. Carlton silvertails got done over, the Olympic Village for athletes was planned for public Commission housing, extended from Commission housing on the other side of Bell Street, with public transport already in place.
The reforming Cain Government also overturned the death sentence for O’Meally, who had killed a cop.
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I have been looking at the pace of the building work at my home right now, for a relatively simple renovation, and I have to conclude that domestic building is hopelessly inefficient.
I think we need the major productivity uplift of prefabrication in factories as part of the picture, because otherwise building enough homes will be just too slow and expensive.
I imagine the technique could be applied to low rise (3 story) buildings with some clever planning, for increased densification.
Prefab houses still need plumbers and electricians, some carpenters and joiners. For new housing estates, mains electricity and draining infrastructure, roads and basic facilities have to built.
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Prefab sections with teams of plumbers, chippies, sparkies, painters etc moving from house to house . It probably helped that the houses were same or similar design.
That was nearly 50 years ago and building methods are more efficient today.
Ed Husic goes off on PM and Marles. Didn’t hold back. Whack
Looks like Dr Ryan will hang on in Kooyong. Leading by 693 with 5,000 votes to count.
Last election, Kooyong was about the biggest scalp, with Coalition Treasurer Frydenberg going down.
As to Goldstein, well before the election campaign, Wilson was running front page banner ads in the MSM underneath the featured story ( including the Israeli killing of a Hamas leader) - a pic of Tim saying he was a Proud Zionist.
Meanwhile the Greens were criticised for having their heads in the Middle East instead of Australian issues.
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One group of unionists against another?
What’s the story with Dreyfus being demoted?
Bacchus, I enjoy our back and forth on here, but you need to realise that you vote for a conservative party.
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Apparently to do with his watering down of NACC.
But this strict adherence to factions has always worried me about Labor.
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Can’t fight for the broader population if you spend so much energy fighting your own party.
They treat the electorate as their playground for internal wargames, which the right faction always wins.
Marles is a Lib in all but name, and he’s running the joint.
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Spot on.
Marles should ■■■■ off to the Liberal Party.
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In the Melbourne electorate, the ALP primary vote went up to more than 30%, after a sharp downturn since 2005.
The Lib primary vote climbed back to close to 20%, after a progressive fall from 25% since 2005.
The Greens primary vote went from close to 50% in 2020 to 40% in 2025.
Our Group is no echo chamber, and are very diverse. Conservatives would not be able to handle the heat.
I used to listen to the thoughts of all others, but it got me into far too many arguments which was often dangerous.
I really have no problem how anyone votes, if they do it for a valid reason. Voting Liberals because you hate Labor or Greens is something that does irk me a bit, not voting at all is just a weak response and a cop out.
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Farking reality hurts, so be nice.
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Don’t I know it.
I’ve been trying to be nicer, but ■■■■ it’s an effort.
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Dreyfus watered down NACC, which would have suited the Right. He didn’t do a lot of reforming.
Reportedly he wasn’t a big player in the Right faction, whereas Sam Rae was a key numbers man. Maybe Marles owes Rae for his control of the Right faction.
Maybe Marles thought he could justify the choices, knowing that Husic ( a Muslim pro Palestinian) would lose a Ministry for the second time against the big Right boys in NSW. IDK the influence of Left/ Right in NSW or Victoria, but both would need to accomodate Ministerial positions in other States, including Tasmania, as well as securing ACT Gallagher ( one of the ALP top performers).
Then for balance, Marles to dump Dreyfus as a Zionist, who advocated for the definition of antisemitism to extend to anti-Zionism.
Took me a while to not see that second word as “really”.
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Yes. He looks and acts like a Lib
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