I’m 100% certain he will lose and yes I’d be happy to see the end of him and hopefully a few other cronies that have disgraced themselves.
As for win/win I’m probably one of the lucky ones that will pretty much not be affected by whichever party wins the election. Both sides of politics know who really run the country and they are too scared or unable to rock the boat so not a lot will change for me except hopefully some decent steps towards environmental action and decent climate change policies
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I’d hope for and expect a lot more from a change of government than those things, they aren’t the same entities at all and no matter how many times that line gets trotted out history shows the country goes in a different direction under Labor/Greens/Indies than it does under LNP. For a start there’s less emphasis on “I’m alright Jack” style, selfish, anti community sentiment. The recent decades under that ■■■■ have made Australia pretty sick.
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Of course Keating is not left enough for me. That doesn’t mean it’s not a fine article about him. It is scrupulously fair in its presentation of his ideas, without any snide attacks, leaving the readers to make up their own minds about him. This is so rare for Murfoch’s Ocker that it beggars belief. @Humble_Minion probably identified the reason for this unusual fair treatment from Murfoch when he wrote
Keating was and is too right-wing for me, with his “privatisation and deregulation at every turn,” the exact opposite of what he should have been doing. The prime example of this is his sale of the Commonwealth Bank, which had been founded by the great Labor Government of Andrew Fisher in 1911. Fisher wanted to nationalise banking but never managed it; the Labor government of Ben Chifley fell in 1949 after trying to nationalise the banks, and let Ming in, so I suspect that Keating was a bit leary of the banks, given this history.
He might have been too right wing on financial matters, but he was pretty good on social matters. He certainly wasn’t as far right as Ming had been or as cringe-worthy — and he tried to get a Republic, whereas the Lord Warden of the Cinque Ports delighted in kissing the English queen’s backside: “I did but see her passing by, And yet I love her till I die.”
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So what do hope happens and what changes can you actually foresee?
Maybe if they win a second term things could be to more of your liking but I can’t see any huge changes in their first term. They will get the keys in a few months and I could be wrong but guess we will find out soon enough
Of course I knew that, but the article does nothing much for me.
If Albo had Keating’s oratory skills, the next election would not be in doubt.
I had no time for Bob Hawke and that started before he became PM and was forced on us as my local MP. I had experienced his behaviour on a trip to Manila in late 1970’s, and his version of Labor politics was far-right to me then. I am over the claims of Hawke/Keating “modernising” our economy, and reckon wrecking our workers rights was more the outcome.
I once discussed this with Bill Shorten and we agreed that for a rightwing labor man, Bill is farleft of Hawke/Keating.
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Hayden and the drover’s brown dog.
Hawke rode in on all the work done by committed ALP identities to heal the split in Victoria, Victorian Labor moving more to the centre ( and allowing DLP members back into the ALP fold) and after the likes of Button transferring support from Hayden to Hawke.
And what a coincidence of timing as Fraser goes to Yarralumla and Hawke gets elected as ALP leader
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ALP just need to accept their lot.
Get in, make massive daring positive changes for the nation, get voted out by nuffies, do it all again in ten years.
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Integrity Com with teeth and retrospective powers, education revamp and a move away from privatised higher education, massive increase in funding for the arts and entertainment industry, obviously greater investment in renewables and climate change research, de-gut CSIRO and science in general, reform welfare, NDIS, farking give grants to regions that farking need them…so many other things I’m sure you’ll hate, but basically a national no dikk hedds policy.
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I don’t hate all those ideas and in previous years there have been plenty of ALP policies that I’ve thought were good.
We will find out in a few months if the ALP has the will or the stones to make major changes
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And dominate at State level. It’s like nationally we want an ALP government every ten years to spend money on people but at the state level we only want the LNP every ten years to cut some costs.
Still can’t get my head around the fact since sir Joh won the 1986 QLD election the LNP has only won one more time(cambell Newman), with Labor winning 11 times. Yet will the same voters, vote in Labor federally, no chance. There is a big group of QLD’s that vote completely differently between state and federal politics.
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I know, I meant there’s probably a few workplace reforms I might’ve mentioned that you’d hate. Can only guess they’re the kinds of things that make it impossible for you to vote for the “other mob”. Ultimately I wish I could share your certainty that this current mob will get the flogging they deserve, but I’ve spent time in Qld and Tassie recently. Not much change detectable in the cultural waters there, or the newspapers in the servos. Climate200 might be the big difference
The LNP Queensland State leaders make Victoria’s look like Churchill, though.
Best thing they could do is get rid of the LNP.
Yes you are right about not those reasons for not voting for the other mob but I’m certain they will win the election just as to how much by is the million dollar question.
I’m predicting it will be comfortable enough for them to not have to rely on others
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Reflecting that more live outside the State capital, the Libs were a weak rump of the dominant National Party, which practised agrarian socialism,
They merged not so long ago to run single LNP candidates , but still participate as Nats or Libs in the Coalition.
- the excuse why the Lib PM cannot discipline Nat MPs - another hose he does not hold, so we end up with a Nat Qld rump basically determining the Government policy on climate change and whatever else.
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It’s not working for them on a state level, though, is it.
They’d be better off as seperate but sympathetic.
But of course ego and power prevents that and long may it continue.
Quote from the article Perce posted. This where the ALP need to fight the election.
How anyone could possibly vote for these bastards is beyond me.
Where the hell has the money gone? It hasn’t improved the lives of the average punter, not now and not in to the future.
These outcomes are not an accident, but the result of deliberate political decisions — nearly three-quarters of a trillion dollars of national debt taken on and still people can’t afford a roof over their head.
Although the unemployment rate is a respectable 5.2%, under-employment is up, hours worked are down. The poor are getting poorer, the gap between rich and poor, wider. This is a consistent theme across every level of the Morrison Government.
It’s in this environment that Scott Morrison has also squeezed household budgets from the other end, quietly cutting 900 items from the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme and increasing medication costs, often for those suffering life-threatening diseases such as cancer. The National Disability Insurance Scheme (NDIS) and those with disabilities have not escaped the scythe and many families living in the most difficult circumstances imaginable have just had their lives made even harder.
Pensioner poverty in Australia is already one of the worst in the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), but should Morrison win next year, the Indue card (cashless welfare card) – hugely profitable for its privately-owned operator – will likely be rolled out to all aged pensioners and recipients of social security, meaning 80% of social benefits will be tightly controlled by the Government.
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They were a fraudulent charity for bushfire victims.
That’s it, for me.
If you can’t sell that to even the most ingrained conservative voters then you’re not trying hard enough.
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Oh we can all see it and plenty of us are disenchanted by these scumbags but I guess the key is getting them to vote for the other lot