Australian Politics -- from 2022 Federal Election

[percebushby]

OMG - pass the bucket. She’s even worse than Warren Mundine !

[handypoint]

@Bacchusfox

My experience as someone who has started a business in USA if that using Austrade and their US Counterparts at Federal and State levels is the easiest way to get contacts and access.

Without introduction it is much more difficult.

Yeah so is Washington the centre of business in the USA?

I would have thought Los Angeles would be the most relevant. Particularly to the NSW service economy.

Perhaps there’s a financial services angle to NYC but not really not in terms of bringing significant US work here like as big al mentioned in the entertainment industry.

Then there’s the sheer size of California in terms of consuming Australian goods.

Chicago might be a considered location given we send a lot of Gold to the US and perhaps have some ag ties.

But LA imho time and time again would make the most sense.

[Heffsgirl]

@tinhillterror

@Heffsgirl

Without more detail this referendum will bring out the worse from some sections of society.

I think that’s the ‘No’ argument though.

Want more information, so they can slowly pick it apart.

Just vote yes, it ain’t going to make much difference to many people.

I’m voting yes, just saying it’s going to bring out some of our worse.

[wimmera1]

My vote is currently no, because I don’t know a damn thing about it.
That could change of course, as more information gets in my head.

Edit: don’t even know when the vote is.

[megahertz]

@handypoint

@Bacchusfox

My experience as someone who has started a business in USA if that using Austrade and their US Counterparts at Federal and State levels is the easiest way to get contacts and access.

Without introduction it is much more difficult.

Yeah so is Washington the centre of business in the USA?

I would have thought Los Angeles would be the most relevant. Particularly to the NSW service economy.

Perhaps there’s a financial services angle to NYC but not really not in terms of bringing significant US work here like as big al mentioned in the entertainment industry.

Then there’s the sheer size of California in terms of consuming Australian goods.

Chicago might be a considered location given we send a lot of Gold to the US and perhaps have some ag ties.

But LA imho time and time again would make the most sense.

I don’t think it is that easy to assume any one place would be best. It totally depends on the industry.

Off the top of my head:

• entertainment: LA
• tech: San Francisco
• oilfield/gas services: Houston
• mining: somewhere midwest or southwest
• wine: California only if you are trying to own wineries, otherwise probably somewhere central like Colorado as many companies run logistics from there, or from wherever their head office is - probably NY or Chicago
• defence: DC (and Australia does export in this industry to IS, although dwarfed by what comes the other way)
• financial services: NY
• tourism: NY or LA
• foodstuffs: see wine distribution.

Based on a straw poll on Blitz of those who have business ties to US I have picked up on (Bacchus and me!), Houston is the more important. But I think it is heavily sector driven.

[handypoint]

@dingus

@CyberBomber

That’s one interpretation, I suppose

It is. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not throwing the “RRRRACIST” card around. However, there’s a lot of suggestion as to how she should act.

Personally I think it makes people uncomfortable to face certain parts of not only our history, but current society. Or to question their own beliefs, even lack of consideration of some issues.

I reckon I’d be a hell of a lot angrier in her position.

Not me.

Australia is built upon a successful invasion of continent consisting of many nations(or tribes if that’s not too much of a put down).

Successfully displacing a very interesting and rich but also primitive culture with a predominantly Anglo English one, shrinking the indigenous population to under 1% of the population in terms of probably both genetic and anthropological identity.

For that to be the outcome it’s had to be a story of displacement, murder/conflict and general oppression.

Australia is a great place to live but it’s shithouse in many ways if your indigenous.

You still have predominantly Anglo (but others too) families for example who basically continually inherit priceless property(eg waterfront estates or farms) gifted from the crown or took great value from that over the years and moved on.

That’s all stolen goods.

Funny how the only native title seems to be on the land the black fellas had in the desert.

Like the majority wouldn’t have lived on the good stuff before Europeans turned up?

I think it sucks. And what continues to suck is the victim mentality that is allowed to continual to fester because indigenous families really haven’t gotten back anything they lost. Endless social security doesn’t compensate for it.

But of course don’t expect me to give back any property I’ve purchased and spent a lifetime paying down. Even if it is stolen.

(Land by the crown really wasn’t “Stolen” it was forceably taken in an invasion. )

[dingus]

Kind of my point entirely.

All of that and more is committed against a people and some want to suggest that Thorpe should “calm down” because she’s too confronting.

Genocide v hearing a black woman use her angry voice.

My heart bleeds for those offended.

[bigallan]

Paul Fletcher on a sharp learning curve as the LNP procedural spokesperson in the House in QT ( now that Dutton is LNP leader).
Complained to Speaker about unstructured sledging of the Opposition in answers to Qs.
What’s the difference between structured and unstructured sledging in terms of procedural correctness?

[barry_day]

Tanya Plibersek says she will block Clive Palmer’s proposed coalmine near...

[percebushby]

@bigallan

Extract from Jacinta Price speech to the IPA, on 5 April

• “Lachlan Murdoch and the Murdoch family have provided a beacon of light in the sea of woke darkness via the necessary media platforms that deliver genuine common sense, fact driven news, reporting for our benefit”

And just in case you mayt have thought @bigallan was making a sick joke, here’s the actual footage:

⭐️Daisy

[simmo41]

it’s amazing how quickly the etymology of the word “woke” went from “remaining conscious of injustices faced by us” (african americans), to “vague awareness of various social injustices, perceived or otherwise” (white americans) to “thing i don’t like” (conservative)

that kind of cycle usually takes 40-50 years

-edit- unironically using the phrase “beacon of light in a sea of woke darkness” should be enough to diagnose everyone who hears it with incurable insanity

[bigallan]

Howard and the Black Armband view of history in the history wars.

[barnz]

You woke snowflakes chased off rottenronnie for shame

[dingus]

He’s probably just circling incessantly around the beacon of light provided by the Murdochs, like a dying moth with only a right wing.

[megahertz]

@dingus

like a dying moth with only a right wing.

Anticlockwise forsooth

[Drapersmullet]

@barnz

You woke snowflakes chased off rottenronnie for shame

[Humble_Minion]

Plibersek cancelled Clive’s reef coal mine, true, but very carefully only talked about runoff and direct biodiversity damage as reasons for the decision. CO2 the elephant in the room. It’s a good thing, sure, but the ALP are still being very very stubborn about not talking about the relationship between new coal mines and future emissions/greenhouse prospects.

[bigallan]

She’s got a huge lot of issues fraught with politics at Fed and State level , MDB and fracking just two, complicated by the interplay between Fed and State powers.

[Humble_Minion]

Aaand in Vic the Andrews ALP and the Guy Coalition have voted together to make protesting native forest logging operations, or even acting in a way which indicates you might be intending to do so, punishable by a year in jail.

This is not long after the Andrews govt changes the laws to prevent Vicforests from being sued in civil court for their repeated and blatant violations of the law about where and in what circumstances they can log, and the rehabilitation they’re required to do afterwards. VicForests is a govt-owned entity that logs native forests, makes an $4 million dollar loss annually despite getting propped up with $18 million of taxpayer’ money per year, and started logging greater glider habitat this week, only weeks after the federal govt declared them an endangered species. So, protecting and giving taxpayer funds to a body that is functionally an organised crime ring at this point, and criminalising the people who protest against it.

This sort of thing is why the Greens don’t enter into more formal coalitions with Labor. Can’t trust them on the environment as far as you can throw them.

[premature_rookie_ele]

This logging situation is ■■■■■■. All to produce some wood chips and pulp. Fantastic.