BBFFL#2 2017 Discussion

Welcome ivan. Hope you enjoy it here!

Welcome Ivan ā€˜Percentageā€™ Blitz to BBFF2.

I look forward to you trading #2 to me.

Iā€™ve already started getting a few offers but as i donā€™t know the list and draft position of you all so it would be helpful if you could include that info in your pms

For Ivans reference.

As well to assist with trade considerations please refer to the squads below - noting the following: -The first position is the Champion Data position allocation for 2017 and the second one is the 2016 UF final position allocation. -The number provided was the 2016 average (note only home and away AFL matches are included) -"Y" indicates if the player is subject to a position change under the Champion Data allocations -The number next to the coaches name indicates the players they currently have in their squads (note you may have less than 30 players due to finalise AFL delistings and retirements) - also the list currently includes Shane Yarran for @Stoops

51 Bewick (30)
Rory Laird B - B 97
Taylor Duryea B - B 69
Dane Rampe B - B 68
Samuel Collins B - B 59
Oscar McDonald B - B 59
Eric MacKenzie B - B 55
Phil Davis B - B 50
Trent McKenzie B - B 41
Sam Day BF - BF 59
Ollie Wines C - C 101
Robbie Gray C - C 98
Tom Scully C - C 96
Dion Prestia C - C 93
Sam Kerridge C - FC 80 Y
Michael Rischitelli C - C 74
David Swallow C - C 0
Toby Greene F - FC 93 Y
Tom J. Lynch F - F 86
Jesse Hogan F - F 79
Jack Darling F - F 70
Jordan Murdoch F - C 62 Y
Jade Gresham F - C 61 Y
Jonathon Patton F - F 61
Mitchell McGovern F - F 57
Josh Walker F - F 56
Cam Ellis-Yolmen FC - C 79 Y
Nic Naitanui R - R 85
Tom Campbell R - RF 76 Y
Sam Naismith R - RF 63 Y
Daniel Gorringe RF - RF 66

Bargey (30)
Matthew Boyd B - B 102
Bachar Houli B - B 93
Ben Reid B - BF 73 Y
Ethan Hughes B - B 63
Aliir Aliir B - B 60
Scott D. Thompson B - B 57
Kyle Cheney B - B 56
Taylor Adams BC - C 103 Y
Scott Pendlebury C - C 106
Dayne Zorko C - FC 106 Y
Tom Mitchell C - C 106
Sam Mitchell C - C 100
Nathan Jones C - C 98
Michael Barlow C - FC 97 Y
Liam Picken C - C 88
Sam Gray C - FC 87 Y
Ryan Griffen C - C 85
Tendai Mzungu C - C 56
Justin Westhoff F - F 81
Darcy Macpherson F - C 59 Y
Josh Hill F - F 58
Jarman Impey F - B 58 Y
Ryan Lester F - C 53 Y
Darcy Moore F - F 52
Jarryd Roughead F - F 0
Karl Amon FC - FC 59
Josh Thomas FC - FC 0
Sam Jacobs R - R 88
Matthew Lobbe R - R 69
Dougal Howard RF - F 44 Y

Birch 19 (27)
Brodie Smith B - BC 77 Y
Tom McDonald B - B 76
Tommy Sheridan B - B 68
Nick Vlastuin B - B 66
Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti B - BF 66 Y
Sam Butler B - B 58
Adam Treloar C - C 112
Luke Shuey C - C 99
Jack Crisp C - C 84
Tom Liberatore C - C 81
Tomas Bugg C - B 72 Y
Clayton Oliver C - C 69
Mark Hutchings C - FC 69 Y
Joshua Schoenfeld C - C 62
Dom Sheed C - FC 60 Y
Dean Towers F - F 71
Josh Caddy FC - C 86 Y
Mitch Honeychurch FC - F 75 Y
Kyle Langford FC - F 70 Y
Jackson Merrett FC - F 68 Y
Ed Langdon FC - FC 61
Ryan Clarke FC - C 55 Y
Jake Long FC - FC 47
Ben Howlett FC - FC 0
Max Gawn R - R 107
Ben McEvoy R - R 65
Andrew Phillips R - RF 49 Y

Cafegerat (30)
Mark Baguley B - B 78
Tom Langdon B - B 71
Luke Brown B - B 69
Sam Mayes B - B 67
Oleg Markov B - F 67 Y
Simon White B - B 61
David Astbury B - B 60
Keegan Brooksby B - RF 60 Y
Adam Saad B - B 58
Adam Kennedy B - B 56
Jack Viney C - C 101
Andrew Swallow C - C 83
Darcy Parish C - C 74
Chris Masten C - C 74
Luke Dunstan C - C 69
Liam Duggan C - FC 53 Y
David Myers C - C 0
Devon Smith F - F 80
Tom Hawkins F - F 76
Tim Membrey F - F 74
Christian Petracca F - FC 68 Y
Kane Lambert F - FC 64 Y
Eric Hipwood F - BF 48 Y
Charlie Curnow F - F 45
Sam Weideman F - F 34
Ben McKay F - B 0 Y
Cam Mccarthy F - F 0
Jack Billings FC - F 79 Y
Jarrad Jansen FC - C 58 Y
Kurt Tippett R - RF 85 Y

Come Back Hirdy (30)
Jackson Ramsay B - B 84
Alex Rance B - B 76
Kade Kolodjashnij B - B 72
James Harmes B - F 67 Y
Jason Castagna B - B 57
Thomas Cole B - BC 47 Y
Jake Lloyd BC - C 86 Y
Daniel Howe BC - B 67 Y
Mitchell Hibberd BC - BC 0
Dan Hannebery C - C 108
Nat Fyfe C - C 99
Matt Crouch C - C 94
Lachie Whitfield C - C 84
Daniel Rich C - BC 82 Y
Harrison Wigg C - B 0 Y
Luke Partington C - C 0
Dean Kent F - F 70
Ben Griffiths F - F 67
Lachlan Weller F - C 63 Y
Lewis Taylor F - FC 59 Y
Nathan Wright F - B 46 Y
Koby Stevens FC - C 86 Y
Touk Miller FC - FC 82
Nick Graham FC - C 80 Y
Nathan Hrovat FC - F 77 Y
Jordan De Goey FC - FC 76
Paul Ahern FC - FC 0
Zac Smith R - R 66
Rhys Stanley RF - RF 64
Tom Downie RF - R 43 Y

Don to Death (29)
Lee Spurr B - B 77
Jeremy McGovern B - B 68
Heath Grundy B - B 62
Jake Lever B - B 61
Jacob Weitering B - B 57
Michael Hibberd B - B 0
Matthew Broadbent BC - B 79 Y
Patrick Cripps C - C 100
Sam Gibson C - C 90
Brad Ebert C - C 85
Danyle Pearce C - C 80
Connor Blakely C - C 75
Jack Redden C - C 65
Josh J. Kennedy F - F 89
Mason Wood F - FC 74 Y
Chad Wingard F - F 72
Allen Christensen F - F 67
Clay Smith F - FC 67 Y
Charlie Cameron F - F 67
George Hewett F - C 58 Y
Jed Lamb F - F 58
Jack Silvagni F - F 53
Jack Lonie F - F 49
Ben Keays F - C 48 Y
Levi Greenwood FC - C 80 Y
Daniel Currie R - R 77
Shaun Hampson R - RF 64 Y
Zac Clarke R - RF 57 Y
Patrick Ryder RF - RF 0

Eggs (30)
Josh Smith B - C 76 Y
Shane Savage B - B 75
Jarrod Harbrow B - BC 71 Y
Kamdyn Mcintosh B - C 70 Y
Easton Wood B - B 69
Christian Salem B - B 68
Sharrod Wellingham B - B 61
Luke Mcdonald B - B 57
Adam Tomlinson B - BF 50 Y
Josh P. Kennedy C - C 108
Aaron Hall C - FC 105 Y
Ed Curnow C - C 102
Brendon Goddard C - C 99
David Zaharakis C - C 94
Kieren Jack C - C 91
Daniel Wells C - FC 88 Y
Anthony Miles C - C 86
Rohan Bewick C - F 67 Y
Jordan Foote C - C 43
Cyril Rioli F - F 85
Caleb Daniel F - F 79
Jack Riewoldt F - F 79
Brendan Whitecross F - BF 74 Y
James Rose F - F 73
Tory Dickson F - F 65
Rhys Palmer F - F 65
Jeff Garlett F - F 57
Stefan Martin R - R 89
Archie Smith R - R 72
Jarrod Witts R - RF 54 Y

No. 5 (27)
Robert Murphy B - B 102
Steven May B - B 69
Shaun Atley B - B 59
James Frawley B - B 59
Heritier Lumumba B - B 58
Ricky Henderson BC - BC 80
Hamish Hartlett BC - C 79 Y
Tom Rockliff C - C 117
Dustin Martin C - FC 107 Y
Stephen Coniglio C - C 103
Stephen Hill C - C 91
Jack Newnes C - C 89
Craig Bird C - FC 82 Y
Ryan Bastinac C - C 78
Matthew Wright F - FC 84 Y
Chris Mayne F - F 77
Jarryd Blair F - F 70
Jeremy Cameron F - F 64
Jarrad Grant F - C 56 Y
Jake Neade F - F 53
Mason Cox F - RF 52 Y
Travis Colyer F - F 0
Sam B. Reid F - F 0
Luke Dahlhaus FC - FC 92
Jackson Trengove R - B 69 Y
Billy Longer R - R 0
Tom Boyd RF - F 58 Y

Pazza (24)
Josh Gibson B - B 82
Zach Tuohy B - B 73
Ben Stratton B - B 52
Tom Barrass B - B 50
Tom Lonergan B - B 48
Michael Hurley B - B 0
Sebastian Ross C - C 98
Mark Blicavs C - RC 86 Y
Billy Hartung C - C 72
Will Langford C - C 71
Jesse Lonergan C - BC 67 Y
Mitch Hallahan C - C 61
Connor Menadue C - FC 56 Y
Steven Motlop F - FC 83 Y
Tom Bell F - F 69
Paul Puopolo F - F 68
Matt Taberner F - F 61
Cameron Pedersen F - F 60
Levi Casboult F - F 52
Daniel Rioli F - F 49
Josh Schache F - F 47
Yestin Eades F - F 0
Matt White FC - FC 15
Shane Mumford R - R 85

Redbull (29)
Zac Williams B - B 83
Hayden Crozier B - F 75 Y
Jamie MacMillan B - B 73
Cameron Sutcliffe B - B 73
Ciaran Byrne B - B 63
Marley Williams B - B 55
Ryan Harwood B - B 54
Jack Martin BF - F 75 Y
Joel Selwood C - C 103
David Armitage C - C 86
Liam Shiels C - C 83
Scott Selwood C - C 80
Reece Conca C - FC 67 Y
Jake Barrett C - C 0
Heath Hocking C - C 0
Josh Jenkins F - F 80
Joe Daniher F - F 72
Ben Kennedy F - FC 68 Y
Sam Lloyd F - F 68
Jamie Elliott F - F 0
Jack Macrae FC - C 99 Y
Josh Dunkley FC - C 81 Y
Mitch Wallis FC - C 80 Y
Elliot Yeo FC - BC 79 Y
Lin Jong FC - FC 76
Matt de Boer FC - FC 70
Tom Nicholls R - R 77
Toby Nankervis RF - RF 69
Callum Sinclair RF - RF 61

Saladin (29)
Callum Mills B - C 73 Y
Martin Gleeson B - B 66
Harry Taylor B - B 65
Brad Sheppard B - B 64
Corey Ellis B - FC 62 Y
Jayden Hunt B - F 57 Y
Caleb Marchbank B - B 45
Matthew Hammelmann B - BF 34 Y
Aaron Francis BF - BC 48 Y
Zach Merrett C - FC 118 Y
Bryce Gibbs C - C 105
Callan Ward C - C 96
Dayne Beams C - C 86
Rory Atkins C - C 73
Orazio Fantasia F - B 73 Y
Jake Stringer F - F 66
Darcy Lang F - F 62
Shaun McKernan F - R 53 Y
Will Hoskin-Elliott F - F 49
Jed Anderson F - FC 46 Y
Tim Oā€™Brien F - F 43
Riley Knight F - F 33
Tom Phillips FC - FC 74
Jack Steele FC - FC 72
Blake Acres FC - C 71 Y
Jacob Hopper FC - C 69 Y
Jacob Townsend FC - C 61 Y
Jordan Roughead R - BR 68 Y
Scott Lycett RF - RF 80

Silly Billy (27)
Jason Johannisen B - B 93
Marcus Adams B - BF 67 Y
Jarryn Geary B - B 58
Nick Smith B - B 57
Jake Kolodjashnij B - B 51
Kieran Collins B - B 22
Bailey Rice B - B 0
Jack Steven C - C 104
Mitch Duncan C - C 95
Brad Crouch C - C 87
Pearce Hanley C - C 84
Marc Murphy C - C 80
Ben Cunnington C - C 75
Dale Thomas C - FC 75 Y
Josh Cowan C - B 71 Y
Billy Stretch C - BC 69 Y
William Snelling C - C 66
Jono Oā€™Rourke C - C 56
Eddie Betts F - F 80
Ben Brown F - F 66
Jack Redpath F - F 66
Shane Kersten F - F 62
Gary Rohan F - F 59
Stewart Crameri F - F 0
Harley Bennell FC - FC 0
Jonathon Ceglar R - R 69
Tom Bellchambers R - R 0

Smooth (30)
Heath Shaw B - B 102
Sam Docherty B - B 101
Jarrad McVeigh B - BC 83 Y
Matthew Suckling B - BF 78 Y
Adam Oxley B - C 70 Y
Brayden Maynard B - B 68
Tom Ruggles B - B 64
Ben Sinclair B - B 57
Cale Hooker BF - BF 0
Jake Carlisle BF - BF 0
Luke Parker C - C 110
Steele Sidebottom C - C 103
Gary Ablett C - C 101
Dylan Shiel C - C 98
Trent Cotchin C - C 97
Shaun Grigg C - C 95
Jarryd Lyons C - FC 89 Y
Mitch Robinson C - FC 85 Y
Rhys Mathieson C - C 71
Michael Walters F - F 82
Alex Fasolo F - F 70
Mitch Brown F - BF 70 Y
Rory Lobb F - RF 67 Y
Ryan Davis F - C 63 Y
Hayden Ballantyne F - F 61
Tim Broomhead F - FC 37 Y
Angus Monfries F - F 0
Tom Lamb F - F 0
Richard Douglas FC - C 75 Y
Brodie Grundy R - R 101

Stoops (30)
Jeremy Howe B - BF 82 Y
Grant Birchall B - B 81
Riley Bonner B - B 79
Taylor Hunt B - B 71
Sam Gilbert B - BC 61 Y
Zak Jones B - B 55
Lachie Plowman B - B 49
Matt Scharenberg B - B 0
Jackson Thurlow B - B 0
Rory Sloane C - C 106
Matt Priddis C - C 103
Marcus Bontempelli C - C 99
Matt Rosa C - BC 76 Y
Jared Polec C - C 75
David Cuningham C - C 55
Mark LeCras F - F 83
Maverick Weller F - FC 74 Y
Daniel Menzel F - F 74
Jamie Cripps F - F 71
Ben Lennon F - F 63
Jayden Laverde F - F 62
Shane Yarran F - F 60
Ty Vickery F - F 52
Matthew Kennedy F - C 41 Y
Troy Menzel F - F 0
Shane Edwards FC - FC 69
Lewis Jetta FC - C 53 Y
Lukas Webb FC - B 44 Y
Kieran Lovell FC - C 43 Y
Todd Goldstein R - R 96

The Melkman (29)
Matt Dea B - B 72
Tom Cutler B - B 72
Josh Wagner B - B 68
Sam Wright B - B 62
Conor McKenna B - F 54 Y
Daniel McKenzie B - C 53 Y
Marco Paparone B - B 51
Sam Menegola C - C 95
Trent Dumont C - C 76
Jack Trengove C - C 70
Alex Sexton C - FC 64 Y
Brent Stanton C - C 0
Jobe Watson C - C 0
Jake Melksham C - C 0
Lance Franklin F - F 94
Brett Deledio F - F 92
Aaron Young F - C 75 Y
Shaun Higgins F - F 73
Toby McLean F - F 73
Peter Wright F - F 65
Aaron Vandenberg F - FC 61 Y
Tom Papley F - F 61
Dylan Buckley F - B 58 Y
Cory Gregson F - F 57
Jack Sinclair F - FC 54 Y
Wayne Milera F - F 51
Rupert Wills FC - C 84 Y
Alex Neal-Bullen FC - BC 52 Y
Matthew Kreuzer R - R 72

TrevorBix (30)
Shane Biggs B - B 79
Shannon Hurn B - B 70
Robbie Tarrant B - B 69
Lachie Henderson B - F 69 Y
Garrick Ibbotson B - B 66
Aaron Mullett B - B 61
Nathan Broad B - B 48
Andrew Gaff C - C 94
Dom Tyson C - C 93
Joshua Kelly C - C 90
Cameron Guthrie C - C 80
Paul Seedsman C - BC 77 Y
David Mackay C - C 76
Matt Shaw C - C 70
Dyson Heppell C - C 0
Jaeger Oā€™Meara C - C 0
Tom T. Lynch F - F 90
Jack Gunston F - F 88
Luke Breust F - F 79
Jesse White F - F 72
Travis Varcoe F - BF 68 Y
Brandon Matera F - F 66
Josh Bruce F - F 61
James Sicily F - F 60
Sam J. Reid F - FC 57 Y
Paddy McCartin F - F 41
Mason Redman F - FC 36 Y
Isaac Smith FC - C 89 Y
Matthew Leuenberger R - RF 73 Y
Jonathon Griffin R - RF 63 Y

Westozziebomber (24)
Kade Simpson B - B 101
Leigh Montagna B - FC 98 Y
Luke Hodge B - C 87 Y
Shaun Burgoyne B - B 86
Andrew Mackie B - B 75
Michael Johnson B - B 67
Daniel Talia B - B 66
Patrick Ambrose B - F 50 Y
James Kelly BC - C 99 Y
Bernie Vince BC - C 92 Y
Ryan Burton BF - F 54 Y
Jordan Lewis C - C 103
Scott Thompson C - C 96
Nick Suban C - C 58
Josh Clayton C - BC 33 Y
Nick Riewoldt F - F 111
Jarrad Waite F - F 84
Steve Johnson F - F 83
Travis Cloke F - F 75
Dennis Armfield F - F 64
Drew Petrie F - F 60
Brendon Ah Chee FC - C 66 Y
Aaron Sandilands R - R 55
Majak Daw RF - RF 62

Wezza (30)
Jasper Pittard B - B 82
Nick Haynes B - B 74
Dylan Roberton B - B 70
Nathan Wilson B - B 64
Jayden Short B - FC 60 Y
Darcy Byrne-Jones B - B 59
Jimmy Webster B - B 59
Curtly Hampton B - B 0
Patrick Dangerfield C - C 118
Brayden Fiorini C - C 112
Lachie Neale C - C 111
Lachie Hunter C - C 104
Jack Ziebell C - C 95
Travis Boak C - C 90
Brandon Ellis C - C 90
David Mundy C - C 89
Darcy Tucker C - B 65 Y
James Aish C - BC 64 Y
Nathan Freeman C - C 0
Jack Watts F - FC 80 Y
Taylor Walker F - F 75
Isaac Heeney F - F 73
Nakia Cockatoo F - F 61
Callum Ah Chee F - F 56
Angus Brayshaw FC - FC 70
Bradley Hill FC - C 69 Y
Blaine Boekhorst FC - FC 56
Tom Hickey R - RF 78 Y
Reilly Oā€™Brien R - R 74
Jason Holmes R - R 46

And current draft picks (doesnt include recent pick 14 trade).

Cafegerat (12) 1,19,37,55,73,77,91,109,127,140,145,163
Pazza (11) 2,20,38,56,74,92,108,110,128,146,164
The Melkman (10) 3,14,15,32,39,57,70,72,75,118
Silly Billy (9) 22,58,76,94,100,112,130,148,166
Saladin (11) 4,5,23,41,59,113,131,149, 153,167, 172
Come Back Hirdy (10) 6,16,24,42,60,78,96,132,150,168
Don to Death (12) 7,21,25,34,43,61,79,97,115,133,151,169
Birch19 (10) 8,26,44,62,80,98,116,134,152,170
51 Bewick (10) 9,27, 28, 45,47,63,81,99,117,135,
redbull (10) 40,46,52,53,64,82,88, 95,136,154,
TrevorBix (10) 11,29,65,83,101,119,137,155,171,173
No. 5 (10) 12,30,48,66,84,102,120,138,156,174
Stoops (11) 13,18,31,36,49,67,103,121,139,157,175
Eggs (8) 50,68,86,104,147,158,165,176
Wezza (9) 33,51,69,87,105,123,141,159,177
Bargey (10) 93,106,111,114,122,124,129,142,160,178
Smooth (10) 10,17,35,71,89,107,125,143,161,179
westozziebomber (7) 54,85,90,126,144,162,180

Thanks Sal - a bit difficult coordinating this from the beach in Sri Lanka!

Thanks Sal - a bit difficult coordinating this from the beach in Sri Lanka!

Diddums! #firstworldproblems :tongue:

Thanks Sal - a bit difficult coordinating this from the beach in Sri Lanka!
Diddums! #firstworldproblems :tongue:

Welcome Ivan, great to have you on board :slight_smile:

Tonights game wasnt a great one for sorting out my keeper list, lol. Mckernan, Phillips, WHE all had good moments.

Is Jesse lonergan really a mid/def in this game?

Is Jesse lonergan really a mid/def in this game?

He is a mid only at this stage. UF do add extra positions during the season.

Players are reviewed after every three rounds to determine if they have been primarily playing in a position that they are not already eligible for in Ultimate Footy.
If this is the case, a player positional change may be made.
Check back after rounds 3, 6, 9, 12 and 15 to see what changes have been made.

Just a reminder that trading ends this week at 6pm Friday and final list lodgements are due by 8pm Sunday.

Iā€™m like the anti-Drake. My hotline dont bling for trade proposals.

If people would like to post their likely delisted players I still have two list spots I want to fill before determing my keepers.

I farking love this, sal is just making the rules up as he goes along, it is just like the real thing.

I'm definitely in trouble this year though. Half my list has retired

I wondered when that would happen. Though a few are going on again that wasnt really expected.

Iā€™m definitely in trouble this year though. Half my list has retired

Should we be nominating LTI's now, or after final lists?

Really, it should be after, but well before draft completion. But its probably a moot point.

If anyone has a keeper decision that hinges on possible LTI status, pm me. But it should be fairly evident for most. Though it seems that the official Afl injury list isnt really functioning atm so Iā€™m probably making arbitrary judgements on media reports.

All things considered, Id say no to Whitfield.

It wasnt just the Essendon 12. It was also Monfries, Melk etc. My understanding is that the League boss made the call that having to have up to 18 or so players removed for an entire year made the task of fielding full lists too difficult and forcing the delisting of same as unfair. It was a one off.

We have allowed for mid year retirements, mental health issues etc to be LTIā€™d. But Whitfield is technically a disrepute charge brought by the AFL. Really just a tribunal suspension.