Ironically, Cousins is something of an argument against the belief that drug addiction can be addressed by decriminalisation.
Guy faced absolutely no legal consequences for his drug use for years. For him, it WASN’T illegal, in any meaningful way. Still it turned him into … Whatever he is now.
That strand is thinner than WADAs argument.
Don’t think you can make that connection.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not one if the LOCK UP ALL TEH ADDICTZ crowd & I think drug laws for stuff like usage should be loosened. But as cousins demonstrates, simply being free of legal consequences for your drug use doesn’t mean it won’t ■■■■ you up.
Decriminalisation aint a magic bullet.
It’s a bit dangerous to draw any conclusions on a sample size of 1.
Dont agree with any of that HM of Bomber Girl. Look at Switzerland. They have free heroin sponsored by their NHS. You go to a clinic, tell them how much you want, inject safely and in peace. After that you sit and talk to a counsellor and are constantly offered to check into the adjacent rehab centre. What that allows is for the addict to spend the rest of their day living a functional and potentially prosperous life rather than planning to beg borrow and steal for their next hit. What may surprise you is that 80% of addicts, after visiting these clinics for a year, (and usually after choosing to increase their dosage each time), voluntarily choose to reduce their dosage and slowly wean off the drugs.
What decriminalisation would allow the govt. to do with Ben is it lets us more freely accept that he is an addict, stop spending money trying to put him away and provide him with free, uncut substances of known purity (big deal that one) and then spend the other 95% of the time trying to offer a guy like him the help he needs which go to the root of why he’s an addict (pro tip: it’s not just cos da drugs r powerful) EDIT: not that I’m saying some brainiac hasn’t suggested counselling for him yet.
(/armchair expert)
I want to believe all that could happen in Aus but there are that many right wing tossers, media ■■■■ wits and uneducated nufffies that would work together to make sure it never saw the light of day.
Dont agree with any of that HM of Bomber Girl. Look at Switzerland. They have free heroin sponsored by their NHS. You go to a clinic, tell them how much you want, inject safely and in peace. After that you sit and talk to a counsellor and are constantly offered to check into the adjacent rehab centre. What that allows is for the addict to spend the rest of their day living a functional and potentially prosperous life rather than planning to beg borrow and steal for their next hit. What may surprise you is that 80% of addicts, after visiting these clinics for a year, (and usually after choosing to increase their dosage each time), voluntarily choose to reduce their dosage and slowly wean off the drugs.
What decriminalisation would allow the govt. to do with Ben is it lets us more freely accept that he is an addict, stop spending money trying to put him away and provide him with free, uncut substances of known purity (big deal that one) and then spend the other 95% of the time trying to offer a guy like him the help he needs which go to the root of why he’s an addict (pro tip: it’s not just cos da drugs r powerful) EDIT: not that I’m saying some brainiac hasn’t suggested counselling for him yet.
(/armchair expert)
I want to believe all that could happen in Aus but there are that many right wing tossers, media ■■■■ wits and uneducated nufffies that would work together to make sure it never saw the light of day.
Also whilst the Swiss model might work for heroin, I think it’d be incredibly dangerous if that were done with Ice. Completely different kettle of fish.
Dont agree with any of that HM of Bomber Girl. Look at Switzerland. They have free heroin sponsored by their NHS. You go to a clinic, tell them how much you want, inject safely and in peace. After that you sit and talk to a counsellor and are constantly offered to check into the adjacent rehab centre. What that allows is for the addict to spend the rest of their day living a functional and potentially prosperous life rather than planning to beg borrow and steal for their next hit. What may surprise you is that 80% of addicts, after visiting these clinics for a year, (and usually after choosing to increase their dosage each time), voluntarily choose to reduce their dosage and slowly wean off the drugs.
What decriminalisation would allow the govt. to do with Ben is it lets us more freely accept that he is an addict, stop spending money trying to put him away and provide him with free, uncut substances of known purity (big deal that one) and then spend the other 95% of the time trying to offer a guy like him the help he needs which go to the root of why he’s an addict (pro tip: it’s not just cos da drugs r powerful) EDIT: not that I’m saying some brainiac hasn’t suggested counselling for him yet.
(/armchair expert)
I want to believe all that could happen in Aus but there are that many right wing tossers, media ■■■■ wits and uneducated nufffies that would work together to make sure it never saw the light of day.
Also whilst the Swiss model might work for heroin, I think it’d be incredibly dangerous if that were done with Ice. Completely different kettle of fish.
Could a reasonable argument be offered to suggest you could get a significant number of addicts to switch to a safer, more controllable substance? Or is addiction very specific?
Dont agree with any of that HM of Bomber Girl. Look at Switzerland. They have free heroin sponsored by their NHS. You go to a clinic, tell them how much you want, inject safely and in peace. After that you sit and talk to a counsellor and are constantly offered to check into the adjacent rehab centre. What that allows is for the addict to spend the rest of their day living a functional and potentially prosperous life rather than planning to beg borrow and steal for their next hit. What may surprise you is that 80% of addicts, after visiting these clinics for a year, (and usually after choosing to increase their dosage each time), voluntarily choose to reduce their dosage and slowly wean off the drugs.
What decriminalisation would allow the govt. to do with Ben is it lets us more freely accept that he is an addict, stop spending money trying to put him away and provide him with free, uncut substances of known purity (big deal that one) and then spend the other 95% of the time trying to offer a guy like him the help he needs which go to the root of why he’s an addict (pro tip: it’s not just cos da drugs r powerful) EDIT: not that I’m saying some brainiac hasn’t suggested counselling for him yet.
(/armchair expert)
I want to believe all that could happen in Aus but there are that many right wing tossers, media ■■■■ wits and uneducated nufffies that would work together to make sure it never saw the light of day.
Also whilst the Swiss model might work for heroin, I think it’d be incredibly dangerous if that were done with Ice. Completely different kettle of fish.
Could a reasonable argument be offered to suggest you could get a significant number of addicts to switch to a safer, more controllable substance? Or is addiction very specific?
Difficult to say because their effects are the complete polar opposite. I doubt it, but then again I’m not a drug addict so they would be the only ones who could answer.
Ironically, Cousins is something of an argument against the belief that drug addiction can be addressed by decriminalisation.
Guy faced absolutely no legal consequences for his drug use for years. For him, it WASN’T illegal, in any meaningful way. Still it turned him into … Whatever he is now.
That strand is thinner than WADAs argument.
Don’t think you can make that connection.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not one if the LOCK UP ALL TEH ADDICTZ crowd & I think drug laws for stuff like usage should be loosened. But as cousins demonstrates, simply being free of legal consequences for your drug use doesn’t mean it won’t ■■■■ you up.
Decriminalisation aint a magic bullet.
yep, tis like the good old, ■■■ cannabis has so many beneficial uses in such and such, it should be legal.
Failing to acknowledge that the elemants that get you high, are generally taken out of legit medical used cannabis, so their argument is invalid to begin with.
i also don’t see them arguing to legalise cocaine and herion cos they help in “pain” management too, and were specficially designed for that purpose.
Also on the swiss model, if it works for them great, but what is there culture like in general ?
I’m not sure it’d necessarily translate into our culture or alot of cultures who are based on over indulging in substances, even legal ones.
We can’t even remotely curb binge drinking and trying to knock each other out every weekend, good luck adding proper drugs to the equation.
Ironically, Cousins is something of an argument against the belief that drug addiction can be addressed by decriminalisation.
Guy faced absolutely no legal consequences for his drug use for years. For him, it WASN’T illegal, in any meaningful way. Still it turned him into … Whatever he is now.
That strand is thinner than WADAs argument.
Don’t think you can make that connection.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not one if the LOCK UP ALL TEH ADDICTZ crowd & I think drug laws for stuff like usage should be loosened. But as cousins demonstrates, simply being free of legal consequences for your drug use doesn’t mean it won’t ■■■■ you up.
Decriminalisation aint a magic bullet.
yep, tis like the good old, ■■■ cannabis has so many beneficial uses in such and such, it should be legal.
Failing to acknowledge that the elemants that get you high, are generally taken out of legit medical used cannabis, so their argument is invalid to begin with.
i also don’t see them arguing to legalise cocaine and herion cos they help in “pain” management too, and were specficially designed for that purpose.
Also on the swiss model, if it works for them great, but what is there culture like in general ?
I’m not sure it’d necessarily translate into our culture or alot of cultures who are based on over indulging in substances, even legal ones.
We can’t even remotely curb binge drinking and trying to knock each other out every weekend, good luck adding proper drugs to the equation.
Ironically, Cousins is something of an argument against the belief that drug addiction can be addressed by decriminalisation.
Guy faced absolutely no legal consequences for his drug use for years. For him, it WASN’T illegal, in any meaningful way. Still it turned him into … Whatever he is now.
that’s quite a over-simplification of the arguments for decriminalisation.
FFS. Why does every second ■■■■ on blitz have to read into every post x10 points that were not made and were not implied.
Ironically, Cousins is something of an argument against the belief that drug addiction can be addressed by decriminalisation.
Guy faced absolutely no legal consequences for his drug use for years. For him, it WASN’T illegal, in any meaningful way. Still it turned him into … Whatever he is now.
That strand is thinner than WADAs argument.
Don’t think you can make that connection.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not one if the LOCK UP ALL TEH ADDICTZ crowd & I think drug laws for stuff like usage should be loosened. But as cousins demonstrates, simply being free of legal consequences for your drug use doesn’t mean it won’t ■■■■ you up.
Decriminalisation aint a magic bullet.
yep, tis like the good old, ■■■ cannabis has so many beneficial uses in such and such, it should be legal.
Failing to acknowledge that the elemants that get you high, are generally taken out of legit medical used cannabis, so their argument is invalid to begin with.
i also don’t see them arguing to legalise cocaine and herion cos they help in “pain” management too, and were specficially designed for that purpose.
Also on the swiss model, if it works for them great, but what is there culture like in general ?
I’m not sure it’d necessarily translate into our culture or alot of cultures who are based on over indulging in substances, even legal ones.
We can’t even remotely curb binge drinking and trying to knock each other out every weekend, good luck adding proper drugs to the equation.
You have so little idea it’s a̶l̶m̶o̶s̶t̶ laughable.
Ironically, Cousins is something of an argument against the belief that drug addiction can be addressed by decriminalisation.
Guy faced absolutely no legal consequences for his drug use for years. For him, it WASN’T illegal, in any meaningful way. Still it turned him into … Whatever he is now.
That strand is thinner than WADAs argument.
Don’t think you can make that connection.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not one if the LOCK UP ALL TEH ADDICTZ crowd & I think drug laws for stuff like usage should be loosened. But as cousins demonstrates, simply being free of legal consequences for your drug use doesn’t mean it won’t ■■■■ you up.
Decriminalisation aint a magic bullet.
It’s a bit dangerous to draw any conclusions on a sample size of 1.
You will have to post this a few more times before I can like it.
Ironically, Cousins is something of an argument against the belief that drug addiction can be addressed by decriminalisation.
Guy faced absolutely no legal consequences for his drug use for years. For him, it WASN’T illegal, in any meaningful way. Still it turned him into … Whatever he is now.
that’s quite a over-simplification of the arguments for decriminalisation.
FFS. Why does every second ■■■■ on blitz have to read into every post x10 points that were not made and were not implied.
Ever wondered, are the activities of drug dealers are included in Australias GDP ? They certainly are !. After all, the druggies in their ice labs are making a product which can be sold at a good profit, spending their money on restaurants, clothes, property, cars, gambling, and laboratory glassware. Its all part of economic activity within the Australian workplace.
The fact that Cousins has lost everything is just a boost to the velocity of circulation of money from an economists point of view. The problem is, human misery is not accounted for in the GDP figures.
Ironically, Cousins is something of an argument against the belief that drug addiction can be addressed by decriminalisation.
Guy faced absolutely no legal consequences for his drug use for years. For him, it WASN’T illegal, in any meaningful way. Still it turned him into … Whatever he is now.
That strand is thinner than WADAs argument.
Don’t think you can make that connection.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not one if the LOCK UP ALL TEH ADDICTZ crowd & I think drug laws for stuff like usage should be loosened. But as cousins demonstrates, simply being free of legal consequences for your drug use doesn’t mean it won’t ■■■■ you up.
Decriminalisation aint a magic bullet.
yep, tis like the good old, ■■■ cannabis has so many beneficial uses in such and such, it should be legal.
Failing to acknowledge that the elemants that get you high, are generally taken out of legit medical used cannabis, so their argument is invalid to begin with.
i also don’t see them arguing to legalise cocaine and herion cos they help in “pain” management too, and were specficially designed for that purpose.
Also on the swiss model, if it works for them great, but what is there culture like in general ?
I’m not sure it’d necessarily translate into our culture or alot of cultures who are based on over indulging in substances, even legal ones.
We can’t even remotely curb binge drinking and trying to knock each other out every weekend, good luck adding proper drugs to the equation.
That first sentence makes no sense. If anything, it’s a case for decriminalisation because THC in cannabis CAN be removed and it can still act as an effective treatment against multiple medical problems.
Even if your bullsh!t cultural lesson is true (it isn’t), then it’s all the more reason for us to have a massive cultural change and it starts with how we treat drug users.
Ironically, Cousins is something of an argument against the belief that drug addiction can be addressed by decriminalisation.
Guy faced absolutely no legal consequences for his drug use for years. For him, it WASN’T illegal, in any meaningful way. Still it turned him into … Whatever he is now.
That strand is thinner than WADAs argument.
Don’t think you can make that connection.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not one if the LOCK UP ALL TEH ADDICTZ crowd & I think drug laws for stuff like usage should be loosened. But as cousins demonstrates, simply being free of legal consequences for your drug use doesn’t mean it won’t ■■■■ you up.
Decriminalisation aint a magic bullet.
yep, tis like the good old, ■■■ cannabis has so many beneficial uses in such and such, it should be legal.
Failing to acknowledge that the elemants that get you high, are generally taken out of legit medical used cannabis, so their argument is invalid to begin with.
i also don’t see them arguing to legalise cocaine and herion cos they help in “pain” management too, and were specficially designed for that purpose.
Also on the swiss model, if it works for them great, but what is there culture like in general ?
I’m not sure it’d necessarily translate into our culture or alot of cultures who are based on over indulging in substances, even legal ones.
We can’t even remotely curb binge drinking and trying to knock each other out every weekend, good luck adding proper drugs to the equation.
You have so little idea it’s almost laughable.
I think DP would be amazed at how many high functioning, high achievers who are recreational users of pot that are out there.
I can think of 2 from our 1993 & 2000 GF teams off the top of my head without even thinking about it.
Am I supposed to feel sorry for Ben because he is now broke? I can understand his addiction and feel concerned for him but I simply cannot feel sorry for him.