I couldn’t belive how flat and unfit we looked in the Geelong game like wtf happend?
Not even 20 seconds in and Danger already bursted out of the middle and htting Hawkins on the chest.
I left 10 minutes into the first qrt that’s how disgusted i was. never have iv’e left a game that early before.
Also the pre season games rang alarm bells for me
CEO David noble
Football manager Alastair clako
Head coach James Hird
Senior assistant Ross the boss
Defence coach Justin leppitsch
Midfield coach Brendon major
Forward coach jack riewoldt
And this is exactly what should be reviewed.
I can excuse a dodgy pre-season result because sometimes this doesn’t always correlate to season success with many clubs in experiment mode… but the lacklustre first few weeks of the season (gameplan, fitness, attitude etc) needs to be firmly in the spotlight.
Love the wins over St Kilda, Sydney and Brisbane but too little, too late after going 2-10.
What it’s even more depressing it’s happend in the clubs 150 year season
151st year or smth
It’s not ruthless, it’s the easiest, most popular option to bring him in.
Everyone wants it. Ruthless is doing the unpopular thing which is do an independent review and start from there. And an independent review wouldn’t give us Clarkson. It would recommend against.
I looks at Clarkson much like sheedy; revolutionary, young and ambitious when he came in with a group of guys practically his age. They both had a game plan that became part of modern day lexicon that left an imprint for modern day coaches to follow.
It’s hard to hear but Al Clarkson has had his time, and much like sheedy at GWS, Malthouse at Carlton and Robert fkn Walls at whoever was stupid enough to let him in it’s not going to work.
Clarkson would be perfect for (my new team) Tassie (if X hangs around) in terms of setting club standards, but that’s about it. I know it all sounds a bit ageist but I think he needs to punch a hole in the wall to paradise and special comments.
Can bet your bottom dollar that they will release the fake review report after the next win or good performance. Saying we listened and are now on the right track.
We are a dumb football club if we don’t go and get Clarkson.
History will show we didn’t carry out an external review (Geoff Walsh maybe) and replace the coach, thereby letting Clarko go to Norf instead. We will miss the opportunity and forever finish between 8th and 16th.
Clarkson as coach.
Silver bullet searchers.
FFS.
Clarko can F right off.
No thanks.
Missing out in Clarkson won’t be the reason for that. Missing out on a Cook or of that ilk will be.
Keeping or losing Truck won’t make a snifter of difference.
It’s all embedded in the glossing over of losses, the internal promotion of mates to strengthen political position and carefully presented results of an internal enquire to a board that doesn’t want to ask hard questions of the CEO because they’ve seen what happens when you do.
A lot of good points raised. Beggars belief that structural changes to the team that fans that’s right “fans” have been saying for 2 years are being implemented and we’re seeing results. Absolute madness! Wow, let’s lock down on a superstar, what a crazy idea. Let’s dump this rubbish high press, but that’s batshit crazy. Let’s try and play on more and give our forwards a chance, that’s ludicrous decision making. Seriously, we should be coaching and firing this team up on game day…we’ll let the coaches do the mundane development work during the week! The question for truck is; are you going to stick with your game plan from the past 4-6 weeks or go back to your old ways?? If the answer is the latter, then cya later
Great post and spot on. The hardest part is that yes… us ‘blitz coaches’ pointed out most of these things well before the changes were made… that should not be the order of things!
The question is then whether the lessens really have ‘sunk in’ or whether we will see another flop to start next season because he again goes back to his system.
Still believe we need to have the conversation with Clarkson…
The last thing we need is another unproven rookie coach using our redevelopment as a development opportunity for them.
I think our experience with Rutten and what has happened at Norf to some extent are examples of what risk there is in doing that. Norf of course has many more underling problems.
I don’t necessarily believe Rutten can’t be successful, but it has always felt like he was a poor choice for our team at the time he was appointed.
No one can argue that it wasn’t a huge gamble, despite having some defensive credentials and being part of a winning team at Richmond, he had nothing to back up the notion that he could step in and nurture and build a winning culture with a team transitioning out of the Sheet Show that was the Worsfold era.
I am sure he will get better, but at what cost, and can we as a club stand by and allow him to mess around making some ordinary decisions at the selection table and then tactically with our game plan development. Not to mention the fact that I can’t see any real evidence that he has established a strong connection with the playing list such that he has their hearts and souls on board.
We have a decent list with a lot of talent and potential, I think Rutten has a lot of talent and potential, but the two are not a good mix for us right now.
I don’t want to bag him out as being an absolutely horrible coach with no chance at a future anywhere, I just think he is not right for us right now.
It looks like we’ll have Rutten again next year. Whether we should is another matter.
We should have (at least) sounded out Clarkson some time ago. That ship has sailed, I think.
It looks like we’ll have Pick 3 in the National Draft. We may win another game or two this year but that won’t affect our position in the Draft.
So, let’s make really good use of our position in the Draft so we benefit long-term.
I can only hope that any decision by the club has been made after careful deliberation and reference to as many metrics as can be provided. If that shows them that Truck being here next year is the way to go, then so be it.
The things is, if our first six rounds of 2023 stink as much as this years did, he’s gone.
If thats the case, ideally if one of the assistant coaches (Gia/ Cara…etc) get NM job or move elsewhere - we should get Hird in as a sr. assistant - and slip him into the sr.coach role by rnd 7…hopefully that will poetic if he can turn the ship around and deliver us flag(s)
Where there’s smoke… likely just media beat up BUT, the compelling question is whether to bring in the uber successful Clarkson who at 54 has heaps more to offer. Or, stay the course that potentially amounts to little in terms of finals relevance?
With the list demographic + talk of bringing in free agents, feels like the club “could” be ready to launch?
What better way to frank that potential than with a bloke who knows what it takes to achieve the ultimate.
Of course, the PR is damaging in the short term but taking an aggressive approach at arresting the chronic malaise far outweighs any bad press.
Not sure Rutten is the man to take the team to the next level? Therein, lies the quandary? Back your man or aggressively install a bloke who WILL bring success?
All for sounding out Clarko and getting him to work with this group but there is no guarantee that he will be successful here.
Other than that, I think you’re on the money.
there is a non-zero chance the absolute opposite of this happens
Clarkson doesn’t guarantee success - how do people not realise this
In equal portions, you saying no guaratee of success is the same as me saying there is… except my opinion is based on solid evidence.