The collingwood gameplan back then included playing wider to enable them to defend more easily if/when the ball was turned over.
What else did MM’s gameplan involve?
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Nothing
The conversation is ridiculous.
It’s all about assessing risk.
What’s a more risky selection. A coach who has recently (past couple of decades) won 4 premierships or a coach who has never coached a senior side?
It’s obvious. Yes theres are risks either way, but anyone arguing that Rutten is the less risky choice is taking the pi55.
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Yeah except that’s a ridiculous oversimplification of the situation.
If Clarko comes, we lose a huge chunk of soft cap paying out Rutten - that’s a risk in itself, and goodbye flexibility
We also likely lose at least one of Cara/Gia/Tapping - risk
We also wouldn’t be able to afford to bolster the medical or fitness departments - risk risk risk
Not to mention any number of support staff we need that we already sacked over the last 2 years to save money
Plus the fact that the same administration that signed Rutten is not going to change - who wins when there’s an irreconcilable dispute between coach and football department?
Trivialising it down to a binary decision in a vacuum is shallow and naive
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There is a bit more to the assessment than this
There is an alternate universe where Donald McDonald was retained as Hawks coach after being the caretaker and the Hawks never signed CLAKO.
CLAKO stayed at Port and then became caretaker there instead of Matthew Primus, was made head coach, sacked Stewy Dew, then after 30-odd games, a win loss record of 27%, and a failed attempt at instigating a system the media called Cornes’ Field, he got sacked for Buddha Hocking.
In an ultimately futile attempt to revive his coaching career, CLAKO went to the Gold Coast as assistant to Rodney Eade, but of course he got replaced by Stewy Dew, who then exacted a swift and brutal revenge and SACKED CLAKO.
Nobody has heard from him since.
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Now that’s alot of assumptions.
Imagine this thread if we didn’t already have a coach contracted for next season.
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Rutten is coaching next year. End of story.
None more so than Luke Hodge’s buyer beware warning.
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Agree. We’ve won 3 of the last 5, and there are only 6 games left for the season.
Those 3 recent wins would have taken the heat off him not being there next year.
He’ll be under a lot of pressure to get the 2023 season off to a good start, otherwise the media/supporter calls for his head will be very loud and he’d be let go early… as per the typical coaching cycle.
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I don’t think it matters……it is a simple comparison between Rutten and his 3 years in charge and Clarksons coaching record. To simplify it all, we are a complete basket case and have been for close to 20 seasons, would bringing in Clarko really cause that much damage when you are already ■■■■■! I understand the apprehension but it should be the same feeling you get in keeping Rutten.
I like many was buoyed by our showing last year but in hindsight we had an easy draw and scrapped in with 11 wins, this year we have returned to type and have been largely uncompetitive for most of the season, with the same defensive failings returning. Let’s not get swept up with late season form, Rutten has been poor to this point and shown no ability to change the way we play, defend or consistently perform……I don’t think he is the right man…so it’s Clarko or someone else?
Why does late season form, against teams going hard to make the 8, not matter? Yes we were terrible in the first half of the season, but we have improved markedly. If 2MP kicks straight against the Wiggles, we’d have 4 in a row. What is bad about that? We have a long way to go, but the second half of the season will tell us a lot; it’s not junk time
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If Sydney kick straight… If Brisbane didn’t lose 9 players from the previous week…
We are winning games mainly because we have reverted to our attacking game plan and have shelved Ruttens true game plan that he has been trying to implement for years and has failed terribly with.
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Back the Truck!
Clarko first 2 seasons he got 14 wins, in Ruttens first 2 years he’s allready won 16, so…
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Park the Truck ?
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In Clarksons first 3 years he had a definitive style, he played his zone defence regardless of results and eventually won a flag against a Geelong side that lost only 1 or 2 games for the season……I think that was in only his 4th year. Not only can’t Rutten get our side to buy into his defensive game plan but at the first sight of trouble he abandons it for 1 on 1, which won’t deliver a premiership in his 4th year…and before someone says it’s only his 3rd…I am counting the year he coached and Worstfold walked around the boundary.
I don’t think Rutten is our man, I don’t think he is showing any resemblance to Clarkos first 3 years and he won’t win a flag in his 4th. Does that mean we end up with Clarko? He is the best available coach but my main point is that Rutten isn’t the man and if we keep him on, on the back of some cheap late season wins playing another gamestyle we will end up with a Teague/Bolton situation on our hands in 2years time…that will be 24 years without a premiership.