COVID-19 Round 12 - c'mon, it's just a little prick

The only way we are successfully shutting borders is to revoke dual citizenship.

Otherwise people have the right to head to their ‘other homeland’.

If that is the route(which I don’t think it should be), that’s the only way of really closing borders IMO.

Like the increase in flights post bubbles. If Singapore becomes a bubble like NZ, tourism to Qld in particular could zoom for those using Singapore as a transit ( and who comply with Singapore and our bubble rules) ,
Also, a friend is desperate to meet up with her ex pat family who live and work in Hong Kong, holding out hopes to meet with them via a Singapore bubble,

You have Australians who cannot even get exemptions to see dying family/loved ones. Do other countries do this to their own citizens?

I’m currently sitting in the waiting room post first jab.

I feel like I’m in the cool club now.

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Make sure you catch the train home and lick all the handrails.

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I kinda think bubbles are futile if they are to be popped at the instance of one breach.(eg NZ to Sydney)

If that is the case they really aren’t worth the stress of travel. You need guaranteed right of transit.

Instead we need a pathway to living with covid under a vaccined(as good as it may be) population and testing on arrival for visitors as the only bar they need to climb.

With a travel insurance industry that covers it. And insurance needs surety.

The ‘stuck overseas’ situation is just so murky. A friend of mine in China has just been able to book 2 tickets home and HQ. Their work contracts in China have finished and there has been few issues getting the flights back.

Another friend in UK has arrived back currently in HQ, they got a reasonable flight price.

Yes, there are issues with India but sometimes I think the reality is not as bad as we are being fed.

I’m genuinely confused at the messaging versus my friends experience.

Edit: none of us are wealthy, so it has been normal cattle class fares.

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Cross border communities were subject to multiple testing,

I thought decisions on suspending bubbles also factored in local cases

As I said from my time there recently the NSW QR code’s are so far from Gold standard it isn’t funny.
There was a massive issue with the restaurant in Mascot, basically no one has checked in so NSW Health called this morning in the press conference directly for anyone who dined there on the date in question to call the contact tracers ASAP… hmmm.

Also found it interesting that Liverpool LGA hasn’t been shut off by other states considering 10 of today’s cases are from that region by my calculations

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It’s not bad at all. Unless you’re in a country with a ban like India was, or in some really remote place, you can come home much easier now. People might not want to quarantine and expect chartered or free flights.

My friend won’t come back from Greece because she doesn’t want to HQ, which is fair enough, not because she can’t. She’s already looked up flights and they are plentiful and not too unreasonable in price, all things considering.

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But I wanna try something different!

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When?
Not recently unless they had been in Greater Melbourne in which case they had to produce evidence of a COVID-19 test or a negative COVID-19 result within the previous 7 days.

Could depend on availability of direct flights and conditions placed on those travelling eg via the ME airports, by the country of port or destination.

Ok Put another way given how fast a outbreak happens I think the barrier is too low(number of cases) for it to be the trigger on a decision.

Sydney has decided to go hard(er) because contact tracing has broken down, unknown origin cases. I would assume that’s the reason NZ have cancelled as well.(and the states).

I just think bubbles are an economic pipe dream.

I’d only go to NZ if I had a guarantee someone would pay for my hotel quarantine if I had too on return.

Ie we need insurance policies and surety.

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Yep. As posted a week or so ago, my nephew flew out from the UK 2 days after deciding to come home.

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On Qantas flight subsidised by our Government ?

Maybe I’m also being very ignorant but I could never leave the country to live anywhere else without at least 15k in an account to access in an emergency to get home as required.

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Read on the offical SA site reference to border community conditions,

I think the last 2 to 3 months has seen increased travel availability in other countries because of vaccinations.
I think if both those situations were occurring prior to February when a lot of countries were in lockdown for their winter, it would be a very different situation.

A workmate of mine left Aus for UK (for compassionate reasons) in early January and couldn’t get back until late March / early April because of lockdowns, reduced travel, etc. He was pretty much ready to fly back the first week of February, but had to wait to get a flight back.

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