It’s tough.
In the end just let them make their own choice. And respect it. And tell them you have made your choice. And hopefully they respect yours.
Hopefully, it doesn’t end up biting people in the ■■■■. But I suspect, as soon as someone they know who didn’t get vaxxed is hospitalised, they may then realise it was worth getting jabbed.
It’s tough when it’s family that you live with that have that point of view.
sounds like you need convincing too
It’s an individual choice, but base your decision on a trusted source of info.
And whether your wife gets it or not shouldn’t affect your decision. Do what’s best for you. It may convince her to do it too if she’s having to miss out on stuff.
Yup. Technically it is correct at the moment, but that may well change
The good professor has an Reff of 1.4 vs Billington’s 1.7
1.4 would make the chart look much nicer.
I read this on the ABC website recently.
Dr Kaufman and other experts have come up with a six-step guide to speaking to people who are unsure about COVID vaccines.
You may even be able to post the anti vax misinformation articles in this thread and ask blitzers to suggest an appropriate scientific response? (please remove the swear words)
Not in the same situation, but have friends, and one family member who is pretty anti-vax as a general rule, but not for all the current, trendy social media misinformation reasons. I suspect she’ll eventually get vaccinated in order to be able to do things again.
As for your situation, if you’re concerned at all about issues with AZ, then book for Pfizer. Any vaccine is better than none. Your greatest chance of changing her mind will be her seeing you being vaccinated and being just fine.
I wouldn’t delay it at all. Not only are we going to have an actual dangerous level of case numbers soon, but we’ll be opening more for double vaccinated in about the same time as it would take you to be double vaccinated as quickly as you can right now. You’ll literally be left behind.
Just out of curiosity, why are you hesitant to have vaccination?
Billington’s chart showed NSW at a consistent 1.4-1.45 when at pressers they were saying their models were all saying around 1.3. I think their modellers were closer to the mark.
I think Billington’s Reff is heavily adjusted by the current day’s figures, and more likely an ex-WHO epidemiologist can probably arrive at a sensible Reff better than someone who’s more of a numbers guy.
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I know of one elderly women (not a relative) who is refusing to get vaccinated.
Recently, one of the kids in her street got covid at work, and his whole family are now in isolation, possibly positive. This elderly women enjoyed chatting to family members as they walked by occasionally.
I hope this might change her mind.
I think it is important to acknowledge that anti vax people are trying to protect themselves and those they love. It is generally coming from a positive place, just that the threat is seen to be the vaccine instead of the disease.
Absolutely zero value in having a line in the sand confrontation. Just gets people’s defensive walls up.
Discussion can be along the lines of:
Don’t go into the weeds personally. You don’t change a person’s beliefs in a debate / argument, you just get them defensive. You also probably don’t know enough and if you come unstuck on a detail it can do more harm than good.
Narrow down those fears. Everyone has different ones. It might be about the speed of approval. It might be side effects. It might be efficacy. It might be libertarian freedom love. It might just be peer pressure. It might be a belief that the virus isn’t real, or isn’t an immediate threat.
Take your time, be calm and positive. You don’t need to solve this in a day. Reality is that even if you convinced her this afternoon it could be weeks until you get a booking! Avoid feeling that there’s a rush to make her change her mind.
Edit - and it’s important to understand that people absorb information and change their minds slowly. It’s difficult to realise you are wrong about something, especially when there’s social consequences for changing your mind. Letting someone absorb information on their own at their own speed is important.
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Some anti vaxxers are also the same people not afraid of the disease.
or just cut them the ■■■■ outta your life.
This is one group that absolutely deserves belittlement.
If it is family, you don’t have the choice.
I mean, you always have the choice…
sometimes you have to cut out toxic family members. people are people, regardless of their blood ties to you.
