The collective blood pressure in this thread is through the frickin roof.
Guys, it was just a lunch to discuss property development, something Evans knows a thing or two about. Chill the fark out.
What more do you expect?
Too many here have been trained to over analyse and search for truth anywhere and hang onto it. Even if it isnāt mainstream and even if it isnāt verified or well researched.
Anything that is mainstream is pulled apart and we pick at one solitary sentence and cling to it. And this particular article has been the perfect example.
Caro would be sitting back laughing at how much of a reaction she causes us on anything written or said about us.
The quicker people ignore her rubbish, the quicker sheāll move on to some other carcass.
The Club are the ones speaking to herā¦
If anyone is making their members and supporters look stupid itās the administrators at the club.
Anyone who thinks more dirt could hurt this club is, to quote Essendon's bestest friend in the media, farking delusional.
Essendon is the most despised, divided, ā ā ā ā club in the league.
It has NO reputation left to protect.
And you seem to want to make it worse.
Exactly how does spilling more dirt help a club that has already had its reputation trashed? Itās dirt that trashes a reputation, isnāt it?
Yes, our reputation has been trashed. The trashing will be revived when WADA comes on in November, no matter what the result. But that will be the end of it.
Thereās only one way to rebuild a reputation, and thatās by actions that prove that the past is behind you.
A deluge of vitriol aimed at proving your reputation should never have been trashed in the first place a) wonāt work, and b) will actually make your reputation even worse.
A pile of fuggin bullshiit like most of your posts.
Anyone who thinks more dirt could hurt this club is, to quote Essendon's bestest friend in the media, farking delusional.
Essendon is the most despised, divided, ā ā ā ā club in the league.
It has NO reputation left to protect.
And you seem to want to make it worse.
Exactly how does spilling more dirt help a club that has already had its reputation trashed? Itās dirt that trashes a reputation, isnāt it?
Yes, our reputation has been trashed. The trashing will be revived when WADA comes on in November, no matter what the result. But that will be the end of it.
Thereās only one way to rebuild a reputation, and thatās by actions that prove that the past is behind you.
A deluge of vitriol aimed at proving your reputation should never have been trashed in the first place a) wonāt work, and b) will actually make your reputation even worse.
If you think WADA is going to be the end of it I think you will find you are sadly mistaken. I fear the end of the WADA part will merely be the end of the beginning. I think this has a long way to go.
lol at revisionsist. Sure some here have only recently come to realise the mistakes Evans made but FFS some were also very clear that self reporting & the Ziggy were monumental mistakes from the start.
So would it satisfy you if Evans threw himself on the ground at the feet of James Hird, admitted his sins and begged forgiveness.
Or are you just going to hate him forever?
You think we have a problem with Evans just because of how he treated Hird?
The problem I have with Evans is the way he treated us ALL.
Essendon is despised by supporters mainly because of the long periods of success from the mid 80ās to 2000.
Itās the opportunity, after years of envy through gritted teeth, that they can kick the boots in.
Can you imagine from the outside how our successful sides were perceived?
Ruthless, arrogant, fearless- we had contempt for some of the teams we played.
When we get THAT back, who gives a ā ā ā ā what anyone thinks.
We only care now, because itās compounded by the fact that we are a mediocre on field side.
You guys are huge revisionists, I can't believe there's hardly any support for Evans in here.
You blame him for being strong-armed by Vlad into self reporting? He had been told directly by Vlad that we were mentioned in an ACC report and that the AFP and customs had strong evidence to suggest Dank & Robinson had been injecting our players with PEDās.
Firstly, you think Evanās āself-reportingā would have made any difference? Pretty sure if Worksafe, ASADA, AFP, AFL wanted to raid our offices they wouldnāt have had any trouble getting the required permissions. Remember part of everybodyās contract with the AFL compels them to comply with ASADA if instructed to by the AFL. The fact is, self-reporting made no difference to the evidence collected and was intended to show that we had nothing to hide.
Secondly, I love how you guys think we can just āstick it to the AFLā. Havenāt you learned a farking thing? Evanās either thought we were innocent (which I thought we were in agreeance that we WERE innocent right?), in which case self reporting was the right thing to do. If there was a problem, we wanted to know what it was, and hopefully any penalty would be reduced. Remember when we were looking at 30 players being banned for 21 months?
And if Evanās though we were guilty, then shame on him (you blokes never doubted us for a second did you, lol), but he was told directly that we were farked and it was all about to be announced by the minister, at which point in time any kind of deal or co-operation might save the club from being de-registered or whatever. Itās all fine for you tough guys to say āI would have told them to shove itā but when the stakes are as high as they were, you donāt want the person in charge of your country/family/company/club to risk EVERYTHING in choosing one path when there is an almost guaranteed chance of survival on the path. Remember when most of you wanted Hird to withdraw his appeal because whatever we were going to cop you just wanted it to be over rather than rick players missing games?
As for the situation regarding him leaving the club, he relinquished his role when it was clear his course of action hadnāt worked, and he was breaking down from the pressure, which was honorable IMO. Are people saying he faked his illness suggesting they wanted him to stay on, otherwise stop complaining.
The one thing you failed to mention or maybe you didn't know, "allegedly" Vlad, Evans and ASADA had a little under the table deal going about what was going to happen but somehow the NRL "got wind of it" and ASADA dropped the AFL like a hot brick. Lies, lies and more ā ā ā ā ā ā lies were to follow.
Most of us, are angry at Evans putting the club and the players in this position in the first place. The Board either condoned this behaviour or they didnāt know about it. One thing is certain, the very day our club went down this path, our integrity went out the window and it has been slowly ebbing ever since. Disgraceful, yes it was and it will be a long time, before we as a club earn back the respect we have lost, if we ever do. People will always think we are dodgy.
And thatās apart from throwing the Coach under a bus and not giving a damn about the players and of course at the bottom of the ladder are the members and supporters.
Yes, good point about the ādealā, but what were his options? If he refused the deal can you say for sure it would have worked out any differently? Hird kept fighting and it didnāt fix anything in the end. I donāt appreciate that Evans may have used Hird as a bargaining chip in the deal, but I just canāt believe he would have done it without the clubs best interests in heart, given what he believed to be true at the time, and in accordance with other deals that are par for the course for the AFL.
Given what we know now, even if we had fought this from the very start, we would still have received the penalties for disrepute etc, and the cloud would still be hanging over us as it would still be heading to the CAS.
It was a complicated. We will never know the whole truth, if what he decided was the best decision or if it made any difference at all.
The best interests of the club mixed with his business interests and the boys club and their about town interests. Many people from the AFL are Directors on Evans Company Board including Andrew Demetriou and Ziggy. Conflict of interest - you had better believe it.
Wouldnāt trust the man with an all day sucker, thatās the one thatās born every day.
Anyone who thinks more dirt could hurt this club is, to quote Essendon's bestest friend in the media, farking delusional.
Essendon is the most despised, divided, ā ā ā ā club in the league.
It has NO reputation left to protect.
And you seem to want to make it worse.
Exactly how does spilling more dirt help a club that has already had its reputation trashed? Itās dirt that trashes a reputation, isnāt it?
Yes, our reputation has been trashed. The trashing will be revived when WADA comes on in November, no matter what the result. But that will be the end of it.
Thereās only one way to rebuild a reputation, and thatās by actions that prove that the past is behind you.
A deluge of vitriol aimed at proving your reputation should never have been trashed in the first place a) wonāt work, and b) will actually make your reputation even worse.
A pile of fuggin bullshiit like most of your posts.
A reputation is created by others and what they think of you which rubs of on you.
If a person/company/footy club doesnāt give a ratās ā ā ā ā then it doesnāt matter what other people think. They can think what they like, for as long as like and they will. The others involved will wear of some of the trash and distaste like a stain on a shirt that wonāt wash out, it will always be there until you either throw the shirt. What the eye donāt see the heart doesnāt grieve about. CRAP!
EFC, their players and staff and their reputations, the dirt and rubbish will be regurgitated at will, whenever. Its there now for all time. The end of it, donāt we wish!!!
We are the AFLās scapegoat or, nicely put, the example of what NOT to do.
Anyone who thinks more dirt could hurt this club is, to quote Essendon's bestest friend in the media, farking delusional.
Essendon is the most despised, divided, ā ā ā ā club in the league.
It has NO reputation left to protect.
And you seem to want to make it worse.
Exactly how does spilling more dirt help a club that has already had its reputation trashed? Itās dirt that trashes a reputation, isnāt it?
Yes, our reputation has been trashed. The trashing will be revived when WADA comes on in November, no matter what the result. But that will be the end of it.
Thereās only one way to rebuild a reputation, and thatās by actions that prove that the past is behind you.
A deluge of vitriol aimed at proving your reputation should never have been trashed in the first place a) wonāt work, and b) will actually make your reputation even worse.
A pile of fuggin bullshiit like most of your posts.
Well. Iāve never noticed you before. I only pay attention to posters with something interesting to say.
Anyone who thinks more dirt could hurt this club is, to quote Essendon's bestest friend in the media, farking delusional.
Essendon is the most despised, divided, ā ā ā ā club in the league.
It has NO reputation left to protect.
And you seem to want to make it worse.
Exactly how does spilling more dirt help a club that has already had its reputation trashed? Itās dirt that trashes a reputation, isnāt it?
Yes, our reputation has been trashed. The trashing will be revived when WADA comes on in November, no matter what the result. But that will be the end of it.
Thereās only one way to rebuild a reputation, and thatās by actions that prove that the past is behind you.
A deluge of vitriol aimed at proving your reputation should never have been trashed in the first place a) wonāt work, and b) will actually make your reputation even worse.
A pile of fuggin bullshiit like most of your posts.
Well. Iāve never noticed you before. I only pay attention to posters with something interesting to say.
Thatās nice.
Did you happen to notice the other 23 posters who said youāre talking ā ā ā ā ?
Anyone who thinks more dirt could hurt this club is, to quote Essendon's bestest friend in the media, farking delusional.
Essendon is the most despised, divided, ā ā ā ā club in the league.
It has NO reputation left to protect.
And you seem to want to make it worse.
Exactly how does spilling more dirt help a club that has already had its reputation trashed? Itās dirt that trashes a reputation, isnāt it?
Yes, our reputation has been trashed. The trashing will be revived when WADA comes on in November, no matter what the result. But that will be the end of it.
Thereās only one way to rebuild a reputation, and thatās by actions that prove that the past is behind you.
A deluge of vitriol aimed at proving your reputation should never have been trashed in the first place a) wonāt work, and b) will actually make your reputation even worse.
A pile of fuggin bullshiit like most of your posts.
Well. Iāve never noticed you before. I only pay attention to posters with something interesting to say.
Thatās nice.
Did you happen to notice the other 23 posters who said youāre talking ā ā ā ā ?