The Starcevich hit is on Biffs, Bumps and Brawlers. I was that bored I decided to throw that on and watch some outright football thuggery. I’d say it was a pretty sloppy coat hanger. The next clip not that was Darren Bewick getting Doug Barwick with a short one to the kidneys. Naughty Boris!
My opinion is that Colin Robertson was lying.
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Tim, like Simon Madden, was a lover not a fighter.
It’s always weird that no Bomber ever king hit in the history of the game, but every other team always king hit us.
We are not always the good guys, as my story about Billy Duckworth earlier mentions.
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His last game was the Final against Fitzroy.
He gave a away a lot of Free Kicks just from being too slow for the opposition, and may have even been suspended for the Prelim Final.
Like Derek Kickett, everyone remembers that he was left out, and assumes we’d have been better with them in, but their performances leading up to the GF were sub par.
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Never ever have I seen a dirty Essendon player. Some very tough blokes, but not dirty.
That said; Roger Merrett had a habit of only picking fights with little blokes.
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It also showed that Brown absolutely hit Sporn from behind. He needed stitches due to it.
Some more detail on the rest of the brawl(s) at:
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A deadset lie. The '83 GF is the only one l have ever been to , and the Robertson / Watson incident happened right in front of me, even though l was high in the Southern stand.
Watson did not shape up, Robertson threw the punch and Watson was wide open for it. This was some 100 m. behind play. They were the only 2 players involved, no one else was even close.
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I call bullshit on this. Yep all our blokes are angels & it’s just all the other teams are full of ■■■■■ - what sort of make believe dream world do you live in? Example 1, Billy Duckworth was a kicker, that’s not tough, that’s dirty.
And I saw a Norf game at Windy Hill when Roger decked Steve McCann (one of their ruckman at the time), who nailed one of our little blokes , & he wasn’t game to go near Roger or the ball for the rest of the game. It was the same game when Mark Harvey called Jimmy Kracker a black bastard & got a left jab in the gob from Jimmy that Harv’s wasn’t expecting; I think Jimmy might have done a bit of boxing in his early days.
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Yep well I’ve heard about 10 different versions of when Cameron Clayton knocked out Dipper, but I did have a crystal clear vision of that one, & anyone who says they were in the stands & had a clear look at it, is bullshitting.
You had to be in the outer to see it clearly, as Dipper has his back to the stands.
I’ve seen Glenn Hawker shape up to Arnold Breidis in a night final against Norf at Waverley back in the mid 80’s come off 2nd best & I remember Paul Hills shaping up to Steve Hocking at the G one day in the mid 90’s & coming off 2nd best also.
Lesson learnt is don’t shape up unless you’re willing to throw one & get in first when you do.
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I repeat for the you, I have never seen a dirty Essendon player; I didn’t say they were angels.
And as for Billy being a kicker, that is just crap. Show me the video !
Now his brother John was a great kicker; saw him kickout from fullback one day at St Kilda ground and the ball landed at centre half forward. Had to be 90 metres or more; there was a tail-wind.
I saw it & ask Jon Dorotich; it wasn’t caught on camera, then again neither was Colin Robertson knocking out Timmy, so obviously that never happened also
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I remember one day at Windy Hill, Rod Grinter of Melbourne knocked out Daisy Williams with a rabbit punch to the back of the neck. Knocked him rotten.
That night at the Cricket Club presentation night, a couple of Melbourne fans were saying it didn’t look that bad on the TV. I just said I was in the perfect position to see (HFF outer flank, school end) whereas the camera was on the members’ wing. There were players in the way of the camera shot.
These days there are cameras all over the ground and one would have caught all of these incidents. There’d be no argument. Sorry…there should be no argument, but we know some people will argue black is white.
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If it was not on a camera then it didnt happen.
Another sniper, that one when he coat hangered Terry Wallace & knocked him out cold, was a cheap a shot as any
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Then Timmy was never knocked out in the 83 GF
I do remember Billy Duckworth dropping his knees in Ken Hunter’s back on multiple occasions in one game. Had quite the effect on Hunter’s game.
And one day at Waverley, Billy belted some Geelong bloke around the middle of the ground. Sheeds sent the runner out to bring him off the ground. A few Geelong blokes made out they were going to confront him before he got to the boundary, but Billy clocked all of them and left with a smile on his face.
Daryl Somers was absolutely apoplectic on Hey Hey that night…but he was just another CBC St Kilda ■■■■■■■■, so who cares what he thought. A year ahead of me and @HarryJay at school.
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That hit was the most dangerous thing l have ever seen on a football ground. Grinter was lucky he didn’t kill him, he could have driven his jaw into his brain. He was one of the worst snipers going, but that hit was worse, far worse than anything Dermie, Dipper or Lethal ever did.
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Agree on Grinter, a very nasty piece of work. Perhaps not the weakest thing I’ve seen on a footy field, Clarkson king-hitting Ian Aitken in that ‘87 end of season game at The Oval between North and Carlton is probably #1, but it’s definitely in the top 5. That era was very much hit or be hit. Dennis Banks gave David Rhys-Jones one in the late 80s that knocked him out cold, round arm to the jaw. In terms of Essendon blokes doing dirty things, Dean Wallis kicked a Footscray player (pretty sure it was against the Dogs, might be wrong) in the late-80s at the ‘G. At worst it was a trip, at best he kicked him in the lower leg as he was running full pace. Deliberate dog act. I wonder how many weeks he got for it, if any…
Worst thing about that was Barrot was patched up, ■■■■■■ off , came back on the field and played one of the best individual games I ever saw and killed us.
There was a bit of a spate of them just after Peter Foster of Footscray had his leg badly broken by a kick/trip by, I think, Paul Dear.
Fletch did a shocker in an Etihad semi against Judd when he was an Eagle. Got weeks, and deserved it.