It’s not.
A lot of woman shave their head now.
No woman want a beard.
There is a difference.
I didn’t say a beard.
Anyway, it’s interesting that we’re now drawing lines.
He didn’t know about her condition.
And now some things Aren’t okay to say.
I thought jokes were jokes?
I wouldn’t care if he said any of them.
But what he did say was perfectly acceptable. It was a typical Oscar joke.
It’s a point of view.
And my point of view is that if you insult my wife at a formal event among peers, then as Vincent Vega said, you might not expect That reaction, but you have expect a reaction.
I’m not saying it’s right, or noble, or anything other than toxic masculinity, or general toolishness, but that is happening.
So you agree with what Will Smith did??
As the pm said, I understand it.
You’re saying he meant it as a joke.
I’m saying he heard it as an insult.
Chris Rock’s job was to roast A-list celebs at their own event.
Jada is not just the wife of a movie star accompanying her famous husband, she’s an A-Lister herself, sitting in the front row.
She’s fair game, like they all were.
The issue really should be ‘do we need comedians roasting celebs at awards nights?’ Rather than ‘Chris should have checked before making that joke.’
The other interesting point, is that Chris Rock gets in other writers for his own comedy specials, so it’s highly unlikely he wrote the Jada joke himself. So, there was likely a very nervous nerdy writer hiding back stage when all that happened.
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Yep. I acknowledged the other writer possibility from the get go.
But you always read your lines first.
Always.
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That’s fine.
Well if you ever make a light hearted joke about someone in future, and they break a bottle over your head, I hope you use this same logic.
I either laugh at jokes, or attack people. There is no in between.
Not someone.
My wife.
While she’s sitting next to me.
At a formal event.
About her medical condition.
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No. It applies to you too.
How is this in the Celebrity Deaths thread again?
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It’s not something I’ll ever have to worry about.
I would be very careful about making jokes about someone’s wife in front of their husband, and I would never make a joke about their appearance.
Leaving aside the whole medical condition thing, whether it was known or not.
It’s just something I would never do.
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Because ‘Celebrity’ itself, died a little at those Oscars.
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I’m not talking about wives. I’m talking about everyone.
If women are ‘equal’ as I am told, they don’t need their partner to commit acts of violence over banal jokes.
Sorry should not of derailed it.
Yes, you do seem to want to keep it general for some reason.
Because we can’t live in a society where people get physically assaulted for telling jokes on stage.
That shouldn’t be encouraged. We aren’t animals.
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I agree the precedent is not good.
I don’t think Smith was thinking about that at the time.
Well. The precedent has been set now.
And he was applauded for it later in the show.