James Hird — Sept 25 onwards

I reckon the carbon rod gets 70% blitzers rating

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Just during the NTFL season

Don’t forget having the opportunity to openly discuss Hirdy’s coaching ambitions :rofl:

Not really, it’s just that those who do support it, are very loud about it.

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I think at least 70% want Scott gone.

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That’s probably a lot more accurate than the idea that 70% want Hird back.

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Your right it might be the noisy minority. @swoodley I’d do a poll if I knew how to :sweat_smile:, but I don’t think it would be an accurate reflection anyway and how to structure the question? Do is it a straight out Hird or Brad, or an option of new coach, mature coach or Hird type question? and what thread do you put it in that gets a non bias representation of the full community etc. Overall it’s a bit above my pay grade.

Comments online I was taking as a 70/30 just by observation, with no science behind it. Even if it’s 50%, it’s still well above the 10% that pies mate assumed.

also that blitz is an especially impassioned section of our fanbase, it doesn’t actually represent the opinion of the majority of casual supporters

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I think 70% want the best available coach and 30% want Hirdy.

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Do you want James Hird as Essendon’s Next Senior Coach?

  • Yes
  • No
0 voters

My best mate went to the one on the Gold Coast a couple of weeks ago. He sent me photos of the memorabilia that was there to see if I wanted him to bid on anything and most of it was terrible. It’s purely a money making exercise for the memorabilia mob. He said the talk was ok but both Hird and Lloyd said as they work in the media they can’t answer certain questions etc.

Yes you have pay to have a photo with them, which is a crazy to me given you pay to go.

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I suspect many supporters are like me. I’d be happy with Hird IF he was the best candidate.

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Being deemed lower than a laughing stock is definitely something we would have to face as an organisation if the club were to reinstate Hird as coach. It’s undeniably true that we already are one. It’s rare a club/organisation sinks lower than that. I actually found it difficult to come up with a suitable term as to what is a rung or rungs below ‘laughing stock’ due to it’s rarity.

I avoid engaging with AI, but I went to it this time. It had some interesting suggestions as to how we might be labelled. “Humiliation Machine” was my personal favourite:


If an organisation has fallen below “laughing stock” status, people tend to use harsher terms that imply contempt, decay, incompetence, or outright disgrace. Depending on the tone you want, you could describe it as:

a national embarrassment
a public disgrace
a dumpster fire
a train wreck
a farce
a parody of itself
a failed institution
a corrupt shell
a toxic brand
a joke organisation
a humiliation machine
a dead institution walking
a rotting carcass
a bottom-feeding embarrassment
a complete collapse of credibility
a mockery of its own purpose
a spectacle of incompetence
a beyond-salvage institution
a self-destructing organisation

If you want especially brutal phrasing:

“It’s no longer a laughing stock — it’s a cautionary tale.”
“They’ve graduated from joke to disgrace.”
“It stopped being funny and became pathetic.”
“They’re viewed with contempt, not ridicule.”
“It has become an institutional embarrassment.”
“People don’t laugh at them anymore — they recoil.”
For a darker, more literary tone:

“a decaying monument to failure”
“an empire in decomposition”
“a hollowed-out institution”
“a carcass wearing its former name”
“a theatre of collapse”

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And that’s where the entire argument for bringing him back falls down (imo).

He left coaching in 2015.

Since then, he has done virtually SFA to improve his coaching credentials.

He hasn’t done any coaching courses, he hasn’t been an AFL Assistant Coach, he hasn’t coached at all (in any meaningful manner).

So apart from the fact that he is a much loved former player, what are his actual qualifications for the job?

We would all laugh at any other club if they proposed such a concept.

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I’m saying yes, but would also be happy with James Kelly or even Ken Hinkley.

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“One show only” until the next event in 2 months time.

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It’s wild that you are happy to throw out a made up statistic based on your own subjective interpretation of “comments online” and then say a poll would not be an accurate reflection and could be biased.

Don’t get me wrong. The poll would not be an accurate reflection and would be biased… but come on man have some self awareness.

They are pretty gross, to be honest. Just a shameless cash grab. I took my mum to one a few years back with Sheeds, Longy and Wanga. The talks were fine (Wanga was really good), but in between speakers they’d aggressively auction off memorabilia, and all the speakers had to try and spruik for it, too. They had a silent auction to the side, which we had a look at. But unlike a real silent auction where you can pick up a bargain if nobody else bids, they all had reserve prices, which were just $RRP. So really, they were just trying to get above value for them!

Sheeds was signing copies of his book, too… for a fee.

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I think 30% want best available, 70% want a process, and 100% want Hirdy.

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Gee you’re actually getting upset about a conversation I had with a mate where I threw out a random prediction from comments I’ve seen on social media, ‘so wild’ :sweat_smile:. The main point of the story was he thought it would be around 10%, but it’s significantly more than that. Don’t be so precious about it ffs.