Make the US Politics Thread Great Again

World says Iran is complying with the terms of the 2015 agreement, the Saudis and Israelis say otherwise, Trump sides with the Saudis and Israelis.

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Iran is in no way adhering to the agreement and anyone who thinks they are, are off their tree.

So the EU, Russia, China, France, Britain, the UN and Rex Tillerson are all off their collective tree?

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No they are playing a party line. That deal was huge and there is no way they are going to call it a failure.

R Tillerson wasn’t part of the 2015 deal.

And anyone who trusts the Saudis, Israel and D Trump is a fool.

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Now THAT is an axis of evil.

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Israel still occupying Palestinian territory?

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Or Arabs still occupying Israeli territory?

Yes, America has fingers in every pie, but try not to kill the thread, people.

Thanks.

That place is a mess. So many Israeli settlements interweaved through Palestinian territory. Decades and decades of Israelis moving into those settlements means you cannot cut out a clean Palestine in a treaty. It is frankly impossible to solve.

Yup. Can’t see a way out of the status quo for generations (at least not a PEACEFUL way out of the status quo…)

Israel’s dilemma is pretty messed up. They can either continue to run things as they are, indefinitely, in which case they’re running an apartheid state in which Palestinians are second class citizens in perpetuity, or else they formalise annexation of the occupied territories, in which case million of Palestinians become Israelis and Israel is no longer a Jewish state.

Or the situation is resolved in cataclysmic violence.

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Only recently did I see the map of Israeli settlements in Palestinian Territories… soon as I saw that map my heart sank. The place has almost been designed as an impossible diplomatic challenge.

That did not happen by accident. Result of many years of settlement building, on the right hand side of Israeli politics especially. Trying to lock in permanent occupation as a fait accompli, make it politically harder for any future non-Netanyahu-esque Israeli govt to make any deals. And it’s 100% worked, just not sure what the next step is.

Too much power given to the ultra-orthodox who believe in 4000-year old rules to live their lives by.

If only we could run our cars on radioactive oil…

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Interesting thing is most settlers live out there because the commute and lifestyle is far superior. It isn’t a political decision to be a settler, it’s a lifestyle choice.

If lifestyle means having rockets fired into your living room, yeah!

He opens his mouth and out comes…

Very unlikely that the Dems win house and senate. The majority of seats in play are held by Dems, so not many opportunities to win and many opportunities to lose. Will require a major swing against the GOP for them to lose control.

Possible, especially with Trump involved, but not likely.

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