Michael Warner Footyology Podcast

Exactly that.

They had Bock dead to rights and did nothing. They didn’t lift a finger to pursue him, nor has there been an attempt to explain why they didn’t.

My post was in relation to a club-wide doping program however, not an instance of one player caught cheating.

As Luke Darcy said, after letting Robinson parade a litany of lies “Say that again”

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Black Ops.

What Mick has done is highlight the amount of shills in the AFL MSM, with Whateley being one of the worst offenders.

Can hardly call these people ‘journalists’ when they’re forever perpetuating the company line. PR flog is a more apt title.

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Sorry about yesterday evening.
The saga angries up the blood.

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you are not on your own on that score

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Definitely not on your own.

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And melbourne. And geelong basically had the same program and people, albeit with no insinuation of using bad stuff. I just finished the chapter last night, was not a deep sleep afterwards. A lot of evil people in Melbourne AFL circles.

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Hawthorn directed by coach to have a boxing session without protective head gear. Player Mitchell Lewis is KO d cold. Afl. Nothing to see here move on.

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It is important to remember that documentation collected during the investigation, like the list of substances, dosing regimes and spreadsheets included either the words thymosin or thymomodulin. Evidence of the existence of TB4 at the club was never found. Thymosin is a synonym for thymomodulin, It is not a synonym for TB4.

Evidence was presented by ASADA of a conversation between Robinson and Dank that thymosin was the cornerstone of the program. It is the ultimate assembly protein and biological response modifier. A BRM is defined as a substance that either activates or suppresses the immune system. This definition supports further the understanding that thymosin and thymomodulin are the same substance.

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Arising from being called to give evidence to the ACC inquiry into PEDs in sport, Dank would have been aware that he was being tracked and targeted for illegal and WADA banned drugs.
On that score he would have been cautious about using such drugs on Essendon players in 2O12 and observed Hird’s instructions on that score.
The only slightly plausible use of TB4 relates to possible unawareness that TB4 - as a non listed drug - was banned - he would not be alone there (ASADA investigators didn’t know) .
In targeting an NRL and AFL club apiece, there was a presumption - on the part of the AFL as well as ASADA - that Dank would have used the same drugs at Essendon as at Cronulla. Remember Dillon listing those drugs in the notice to Essendon, a notice which he had to withdraw for total absence of evidence

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The biggest flaw in Warner’s book is the impeccable behaviour of Demetriou in the years since.

Wait a sec…

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i’m going to stop reading this thread now because i can feel my blood pressure rising again.

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I could only read a few pages at a time as some bits were infuriating.

Also Ron Evan’s doesn’t come across as exactly ‘Spotless’ in the book either.

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Listened to the podcast yesterday, good listen. Nothing particularly new around either the saga or the AFL being run by a “boys club”.

I need to read the book, but I’m also sure it will make me sick.

I was watching the Big Freeze yesterday and Hamish asked his brother Gil if hiring Meatloaf was his biggest regret in footy.

I involuntarily blurted out, “YOU BASTARD!”

I don’t think I’ll ever get over the saga.

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Great podcast. Would love to know who he thinks Sarah is.
The only way we’ll ever have closure on this is in court. If business connections and own money flow is ever threatened you always find that people will talk and backstab to cover there own backs. Would need someone who has no connection to the AFL or connected businesses. Would also need a few million to spend. Unfortunately Hirdy probably isn’t rich enough.

God swwnbn cannot let anything drop in relation to the saga. In response to criticism from Gary Lyon and tacit agreement from Tim, about her views relating to Membry and Ross’s decisions to ‘leave camp’ to be with their wives and young babies, she goes on a diatribe about how Tim is Ross’s uncle (duh!) and he hates her.

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Absolutely not on your own!

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She has never, ever once not played a self-pitying victim card. Its pathological for her.

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