When is the coaches draft on?
https://www.topendsports.com/testing/records/shuttle-run.htm
Appears as though those scores are up with best ever recorded.
Hartungs 16.6 is ridiculous really.
White parents only
Father/sons will be “grandfathered” in
Is there any chance we may be over-reacting here?
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Wasn’t McNeice upgraded after Mutch was put on the LTI?
Mutch - McNeice
Daniher - PASS
Draper - PASS
Smith - Snelling
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Don’t be ridiculous.
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Jackets could sell sand to a Sultan.
That is correct. We have not heard the truth from Jackets. There was another spot to fill without either worrying about McNeice.
Do you think a 17yo Billy Hartung actually ran one of the best beep tests ever? (or should it be "has one of the highest VO2 max values?)
Surely if he was that elite-elite then someone might have turned him from an average VFL footballer into an elite endurance athlete. Smells too much like “AFL player X is faster that Usain Bolt” to me.
This link relates to individual sports
Amusingly Jay Neagle gets a mention in the AFL section
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There wouldn’t be too many sports, which have a draft where the beep test is relevant. The draft is important as it necessitates test results be made public.
Soccer Academies would do all their testing in-house and, as stated, long distant athletes would be more likely to use VO2 Max (which I’m surprised isn’t used in the combine tbh).
The website linked appears to have a very Australian flavour to it too. It would be more accurate to say that Hartung has one of the highest beep test scores that is publicly available. Outside of the sporting world, there would be some very impressive beep test being put up in the various military’s across the world, which could be because they can test a lot of people simultaneously.
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Only in the sense that you got the numbers wrong but said it with authority.
Adrian’s comments about Mcniece playing good footy need to be viewed in the light that someone thinks he deserves to be picked regularly in the senior team. And it’s not him doing that.
I’ve no idea why we picked and didn’t pick. I haven’t bothered looking at the list rules. But the midseason draft is a very weird beast, and trying to relocate a player from remote areas and third level leagues (lets say Tiwi as an example) for potentially a few weeks of VFL footy seems problematic to me .
But I wouldn’t know the whys and why nots. None of it makes a lot of sense, especially if we tried to get Tippa2 via one method but then not the other. Logic suggests that there’s some sort of list difference between the two, or a cost difference, or that the player declared he wouldn’t come etc etc. Or maybe we just decided that we can get him via the academy at season end anyway. And if we get to a point where we decide to give a speculative game or two to players, maybe we just give them to Mozzie.
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Should this kids an athlete
Ambrose will love the challenge if he survives to the 2020 preseason
Agent reveals why Tigers pounced on a 27yo with a troubled pastThe Tigers picked up Marlion Pickett at pick 13 in the Mid-Season Rookie Draft
OPERATION: Get Marlion Pickett Drafted began, in some ways, about eight weeks ago.
Pickett had long tried to put himself on the AFL radar – and watched former South Fremantle teammate Tim Kelly do exactly that – but the stigma of his two-and-a-half-year jail stint as a teenager continued to linger.
Intervention was required to breathe life into his football dream, which was realised when Richmond selected the 27-year-old in Monday night’s NAB AFL Mid-Season Rookie Draft.
Pickett approached his now agent Anthony Van Der Wielen, who he had known for six years through the WAFL, in a plea for help.
Van Der Wielen immediately began working the phones, figuring out firstly what had stopped the hard-as-nails midfielder from being drafted until now.
Retired Dockers champion Paul Hasleby and former Magpie and Bulldog Todd Curley, who have both coached Pickett at South Fremantle, were also enlisted.
“He needed to get his story told,” Van Der Wielen told AFL.com.au .
"It was about him not just being the guy who did two-and-a-half years in jail, because that was six or seven years ago and that was something he did when he was 17 or 18 years of age.
"Once we were able to get clubs to sit down and meet with him, they saw he’s got a lovely family and four good kids, he’s as fit as a trout and really clean-living and never misses a training session.
“I think people took the stereotype out and just saw him for who he is.”
The plan looked to have come unstuck on Saturday, when Pickett – a dual South Fremantle club champion - rebroke the right index finger that had ruled him out for all bar two games of the WAFL season.
The Tigers and Essendon were his keenest admirers, but his surgeon told him on Saturday night he faced another eight to 10 weeks on the sidelines.
The Bombers pulled out on Monday morning, but Richmond list manager Blair Hartley remained in contact and eventually let the Pickett camp know the good news just before the draft started.
“He’s been impeccable since arriving at our football club and I’m rapt for him and it’s been overwhelming all the responses on my phone,” Van Der Wielen said.
“He deserves this and he’s a readymade body and could step straight in, but I think it’s more likely it’d be next year.”
Pickett will fly to Melbourne on Wednesday, with his long-time partner Jess and their children remaining in Western Australia for the time being.
So what sort of player are the Tigers getting?
“He hits as hard as Byron Pickett but he plays with a lot of grace,” Van Der Wielen said.
"He wears the No.25 at South Fremantle, which was worn by our greatest ever footballer, (Hall of Famer) Stephen Michael, and there are some similarities between them.
“He’s very athletic and you certainly don’t want to get in his way, but he reads the play beautifully, so he’ll probably be a big-bodied midfielder or a running half-back in the AFL.”
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The eight includes the four teams who didn’t even participate. Slackers.
Teams chose to pass instead of picking up Tippa2.0
He must not be near the level yet. No point in paying him a wage for sentimental reasons.
Misdirection/theatre/trolling.
There was only one set of players that were off-limits: 19yr olds from the GWS/BL/Syd/GC academies, maybe someone grabs Keidean Coleman if they were super keen if that rule wasn’t in place. Father/son and NGA were fair game, which understandably left a fair few clubs annoyed and something that conveniently was swept under the rug whilst the AFL was hyping this as an “open” draft.
Sydney at least had a minuscule chance with Dunkley, he was eligible to them as a FS last year and if he lived in their zone rather than Melbourne, he would’ve been off-limits.
The key reason why its just misdirection or we were straight out trolling is Adam isn’t eligible to anyone as a NGA (barring some serious retconning happening between now and the ND) - I watched Adam play U18s for QLD against Heeney - Adam was draft eligible 2 years prior to NGA even being a thing, so nobody gets first rights on him now. The only year over-age guys who spent zero time in your NGAs qualified to be NGAs was the first season when the AFL made things open to artificially inflate the potential number of selections for the enhanced PR - we went the McNiece route by listing 24yr old Ozgur Uysal who was on our VFL list at the time, but no Tippa2. Even if Hish Kerbatieh starts going nuts kicking 10 goals every week, I doubt we would still be able to claim NGA rights to him, solely because we listed him in the scheme’s first season.
As far as sticking anybody in a category B spot mid-season, you just can’t. You can sign B list guys at any time (those that qualify under the international or 3 year rule/alternate talent portions), but you can’t add them to your list until one of the list lodgments - that doesn’t preclude them joining your program or playing VFL, they just aren’t eligible for AFL. Even if Tippa2 was NGA eligible, the only way NGA’s can end up as a cat B is if the club nominates them and they go undrafted through the ND.
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Yeah, we’ve got Dylan Clarke for that…
I’d argue that Clarke is at the level though. I think we’ll see him soon.
And there’s no sentimental reason for Clarke being on the list unless i’m missing something?