I suppose Hawthorn will read him the riot act. Tell him in no uncertain terms its last chance stop. It might work. Clarkson could be a fairly scary person one on one.
I reckon the deal will be one of two scenarios.
- Both EFC first rounders for Shiel and Carlton’s 2019 second
Or - 2018 first and 2019 second for Shiel.
It would be great if we were able to find a way to trade for Martin but I cant see it happening given we have to use 2019 currency for Shiel.
If he’s standing on a chair
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You could have also said:
- Motlop will also be great if he starts doing defensive work
- Watts will be a very good player if he gets his heart right
- Rockliff’s serviceable
It’s a very similar risk North are taking and I reckon North’s list before this trade period was worse than Port’s was before last year’s trade period.
North seem very much like they’re trading in blokes because they feel like they have to trade in someone and the bloke/s they really wanted said no.
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Is he the lion from the Wizard of Oz?
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I’m gonna pull a Dunlop Buddy here and say shut that ■■■■ down.
Poor attitude does not equal nose beers and is not something you say on a whim about a twenty year-old.
That’s some bullshit right there.
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I could have, but I thought ports acquisitions last year were sh_thouse. Only one I rated was rockliff and he was terrible this year. Polecs actually a good player and Hall is too even if his form is patchy.
On another note. I get the sense FARK CARLTON will be a similar story to Port Adelaide. Everyone praising their recruiting of junk and saying they won trade period is another head scratcher.
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Eventually you have to spend the “massive warchest” ( that the media keep telling us about) they have been building up over the last 2 years.
People think that McCartney has the upper hand?
Wait a second… Won’t GWS breach the salary cap if Shiel doesn’t get traded?!?
Yep. McCartney definitely has the upper hand in this deal.
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I wonder if the large number of trades that are being queued up for the AFL trade night TV special will all be processed on time ?
Yeh… Nah, the AFL will just extend acceptance . Standard operating procedure, excuse themselves if they farkup.
As with the O’Meara deal, as long as they’ve received the paperwork on time it’s all good.
For those who think there’s no risk of the Shiel deal falling over …
Biggest AFL blockbuster trades that didn’t happen
Al PatonOctober 18, 2017 4:35pm
DO you remember when Tony Lockett going to Richmond was as good as a done deal?
Or how about when Lance Franklin was signed, sealed and delivered to Greater Western Sydney?
This may not be happy reading for Essendon fans, who are still waiting for the Dylan Shiel deal to go through, but some of the biggest AFL trades in history have turned into massive fails. Recap some of the biggest blockbuster trades that weren’t.
LANCE FRANKLIN TO GWS
It was almost common knowledge that Lance Franklin would leave Hawthorn and become a Giant at the end of 2013. Certainly, GWS and the AFL believed it. But Buddy — and his manager — pulled one of the great trade heists by joining Sydney instead. A nine-year contract worth $10 million may have had something to do with it.
TONY LOCKETT TO RICHMOND
At the end of 1994 the rumour mill was on overdrive that superstar goalkicker Tony Lockett was set to leave St Kilda. Richmond and Collingwood were the reported frontrunners with Lockett choosing the Tigers — Lockett’s management said he’d agreed to a three-year deal and the back page newspaper heading the next day was “Lockett a Tiger”. The only problem was Richmond couldn’t do a deal with the Saints and Plugger went north instead, becoming a Swan in three-way deal with Hawthorn.
JOE MISITI TO COLLINGWOOD
The end of 2001 was a painful time at Essendon, with the club crushed by salary cap pressure and several favourite sons seemingly on the way out. But despite contract talks breaking down, a mooted Misiti to Magpies trade never happened. Teammates Damien Hardwick (traded to Port Adelaide) and Gary Moorcroft (Melbourne) didn’t survive the cull, with Blake Caracella (Brisbane), Chris Heffernan (Melbourne) and Justin Blumfield (Richmond) departing the next year.
MARK ALVEY TO ESSENDON
Alvey was the victim of possibly the most bizarre trade fail of all time 12 months earlier. He was meant to join the Bombers from the Western Bulldogs at the end of 2002 as part of a three-club deal for Blumfield, but Richmond only got involved in talks 20 minutes before the trade deadline and when the paperwork was finally ready at 1.58pm, the fax machine at AFL House was engaged. The Blumfield deal went through with 30 seconds left, but the Alvey paperwork missed the deadline. “It was madness,” then-Tigers footy boss Greg Miller said.
CHRIS JUDD TO MELBOURNE/COLLINGWOOD/ESSENDON
The premiership captain, Norm Smith and Brownlow medallist created one of the biggest trade frenzies in history when he announced he wanted to return to Victoria two days after the Eagles bowed out of the 2007 finals. He flew to Melbourne and met with Carlton, Collingwood, Essendon and Melbourne, with the Pies the early frontrunner. Judd chose the Blues — although that wasn’t confirmed until after Richmond tried to cut their lunch by offering the Eagles a better deal. Eventually West Coast settled for Josh Kennedy and picks 3 and 20 from the Blues. “They have got a young and exciting list,” Judd said. “I could be part of something from the ground up, that was the exciting part of it for me.”
CHRIS GRANT TO PORT ADELAIDE
When Port Adelaide joined the competition at the end of 1996 they made a huge $1.5 million offer to the Bulldogs champ. The Dogs didn’t have anywhere near that kind of cash but they did have an extra 20 cents courtesy of seven-year-old fan Ryan Adams, who attached the coin to a letter he sent to Grant pleading for him to stay. He did, and while Grant retired without a flag, he was a board member for this year’s drought-breaking triumph — with Adams watching in the stands.
JADE RAWLINGS TO NORTH MELBOURNE
It’s now accepted wisdom that if a player declares he wants to join a certain club, he’ll get there in the end, but that wasn’t always the case. Jade Rawlings had his heart set on becoming a Kangaroo at the end of 2003 after he quit Hawthorn, sparking a five-club bidding war that also included Geelong, Melbourne, the Western Bulldogs and Port Adelaide. He met North Melbourne coach Dean Laidley and was walking into AFL House to sign the paperwork when his manager phoned to say the deal had fallen over.
Rawlings was the casualty of the infamous “Veale deal”, a three-way trade that sent Mark Alvey from the Bulldogs to Essendon, Danny Jacobs from the Bombers to Hawthorn and the unknown (Lochlan) Veale from the Hawks to the Kennel. Rawlings was sent to the pre-season draft, where he was picked up by the Dogs. After two unsuccessful years at the Kennel he got his wish to play alongside brother Brady at Arden St, but retired after just three games in blue and white.
JONATHAN BROWN TO COLLINGWOOD
The Magpies had a serious crack at getting Brown out of Brisbane — twice. In 2005 he was offered a $6 million four-year deal and in 2008 he had a secret meeting with coach Mick Malthouse. “I’d started talking to Collingwood 12 months earlier. About the middle of the year, about Round 13 or Round 14, I met with Mick Malthouse the day before we played a game,” Brown told Fox Footy’s Open Mike program. “I was really impressed and I thought at that stage, ‘I’m going to play for Collingwood’.”
RYAN O’KEEFE TO HAWTHORN
At the end of 2008 Swans star O’Keefe decided he wanted to return to Victoria and met Hawthorn chiefs including coach Alastair Clarkson. O’Keefe knocked back a three-year contract from Sydney and declared his intentions, but the deal was scuttled when none of Hawthorn, Collingwood or Carlton was prepared to give up their first-round draft pick. History records O’Keefe opted against putting himself in the pre-season draft, returned to the Swans and became one of the club’s modern champions, winning the Norm Smith Medal in the 2012 flag.
KURT TIPPETT TO BRISBANE/GOLD COAST
The Swans offered Jesse White and pick 22 in a trade, which seemed unders and was initially rejected by the Crows. It then emerged Adelaide had agreed to trade Tippett to the club of his choice for a second-round draft pick when he signed his last Crows’ contract in 2009. The AFL blocked any trade and Sydney eventually took him in the pre-season draft. Adelaide lost its first two picks in the 2012 and 2013 national drafts and was fined, while Tippett was fined and suspended for 11 matches.
NICK STEVENS TO COLLINGWOOD
Stevens was one of Port Adelaide’s best players when he declared he wanted to become a Collingwood player at the end of 2003. Port coach Mark Williams wasn’t having a bar of it, calling Stevens’ bluff and sending him to the pre-season draft, where he was picked up by Carlton. Port went on to win the 2004 premiership. “I obviously missed out on that but that’s the chance you take when you leave,” Stevens said years later. Any lingering sympathy for Stevens evaporated when he was jailed this year for violently assaulting his partner.
BRYCE GIBBS TO ADELAIDE
Gibbs shocked the Blues by requesting a trade to the Crows on the first day of the 2016 trade period. But Carlton held firm on its demands for two first-round draft picks for the star midfielder all the way to the trade deadline. Carlton’s tough stance paid off 12 months later when Adelaide paid top price to get Gibbs back to South Australia.
The AFL will also consider requests for additional time for certain trades.
The AFL have all bases covered.
Top 4 hinges on this trade for us. How many of us are willing to wait anther year and hope he comes to us???
If it is personal then give the narcissist what he wants and take the deal, or no deal.
#LateTradeHawthorn
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AFL all bases covered, we do what we like, when we like and; if you don’t like it, then fark off.
Dodoro/Richardson/Campbell. they will make the call. Sit tight and be confident.
Same.
Gives us 2 x 2nds this year, 2 x 2nds next year.
Take that.
Yawn!
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