I don’t think these are great examples, and certainly are not Hurley like players. Kennedy was all potential at the time, if Carlton knew what he’d become, no way they do it.
I can’t speak for the Griffen one, he’s not the player he was, so I suspect Bulldogs knew what they were handing over.
I think somebody like a Kennedy could be included, but for us that would be Francis, and we could be making a huge mistake like farkcarlton
Hartley is okay at best. Your fkn dreaming if you think him and a 1st (say pick 11) will get the Kelly deal done
Tippa will be very sad if we trade hartley
You have to factor in how the media works these days.
If Kelly leaves and nominates a club every football show, SEN, newspaper and associated pundit chimes in with their expert opinion on how much Kelly is worth and what it will take to get it done. The longer the trade drags out the bigger the circus becomes.
We all laugh at Hawthorns trading was last year to get value for O’Meara. But they had committed to him and were scrambling to come up with value to give to GC. They might have gone in with the view that they had secured the player and therefore had the upper hand but it didn’t play out that way.
Trading Kelly is like us trading Daniher, would you care about upper hand or b graders, we would demand the world for Daniher.
Our first and Hartley for Kelly.
Is like Sydney’s first (pick 14?) and Sam Reid for Daniher.
Exactly
Kelly will stay, or choose a club.
The GWS will make a song and dance, and bend over and take whatever the receiving team feels it can afford… because that’s how these things work.
Do it for Hartley’s dad, GWS.
Agreed. I don’t think we have a player of any value that we’d be willing to give up. And if GWS are interested in players then I don’t think we’re in the equation.
… although thinking back I think they said the same thing for Treloar, and still took picks in the end
The general consensus in this thread is that two first rounds picks would get it done, it’s just if GWS also wants a player.
And whether we have the cap space.
If they asked for a first rounder and Francis would you do it? I would in a heartbeat
GWS would have to wonder why we’d be willing to give him up. But I think they’d be interested
I don’t think they would rate him as high as some do on blitz, lol, but of course you would take that deal.
Zaharakis and a 1st rounder could be enticing
Fast becoming a major lol thread.
becoming?
Again, pick 9, pick 28 and Dean Gore (!) for Dangerfield and pick 50.
Which one is more crazy?
He was a restricted free agent, it’s a little different.
GWS drafted Sam Reid and Tendai fkg Mzungu, is there maybe just a chance that their list of 55 superstars is a touch overblown on here? This year it looks like Deledio, Griffen, Reid, Mzungu, Patfull, Tim Mohr and maybe Steve Johnson are cooked, and P Davis is always iffy. Hartley would be a useful get for them as would B Howlett as a defensive midfielder.