Politics


#9760

Maybe its so many bridges that it works in her favour. The other side is too afraid to attack her.


#9761

I love watching her at estimates.


#9762

Agree 100%, she is excellent. Australian voters are fukt


#9763

Have you seen the other side?


#9764

Maybe, . but look what they did to Gillard, just because she was a she, and decided to not have kids, … and had a pear shape & poor fashion sense, and … etc … et fkn cetera.

She would also have to resign her Upper House seat and get elected to the Lower House, which is doable, … but she’s so good in the Senate.


#9765

Yep. Penny Wong is the perfect leader. I’ve said it many times before.
Articulate, clear, no bullsh*t, straight shooter, doesn’t twist words.

She can’t and won’t be the Leader of the Labor Party because she’s a Senator. You can’t have a Senator as the leader of the government or opposition.

I’m sure the Labor would like to keep it that way, so she’s unable to challenge for the leadership.


#9766

Andrew Hastie requires reigning in. If you’re sure about your facts, you know, really sure, say it outside the chamber. We do a lot of business with the Chinese so you’d want to be sure before spouting off.


#9767

There is something odd about this. The order of business in the house is usually settled before sitting times. There would have been an awareness that Hastie was going to speak. As he chairs an intelligence committee , it would have been assumed that he would cover that ground.
What he might need to have to answer to is making public classified documents and their contents ( including some of US origin).


#9768

So $444m to a bunch of miners and big businesses calling themselves the “Great Barrier Reef Foundation” without even tendering it, as an environmental grant, is totally fine and there’s no evidence for the need of an independent corruption commission. There’s a bit more for you in case you don’t get your tax cut guys. Don’t worry, it’s just come out of the tax payer’s pockets and they reckon it’s for the environ,ent. Lol.

Oh yeah, how much does it suck when privatisation doesn’t work the way you want it to? These guys who own one of the old, polluting power plants that is at the end of its life have the gall to want to replace it and upgrade rather than sell it to someone who we found to keep burning coal in it! We need to change the competition laws to stop the sensible thing happening there. Better slash some more funding to the ABC. Too much competition for the Murdoch empire.


#9769

Smacks of joining in with, or doing a favour for, the US by calling the guy out in a near empty Senate, but leaving the Jellyfish with plausible (not,. lol) deniability as PM.


#9770

I don’t think Turnbull would have been involved in this would he? Turnbull is the arch-Free Trader, he’d want to keep the chinese on side because their trade will make us all rich Any Time Now. But I seem to recall that Hastie is one of the new(er) breed of religious wackos, more aligned to Abbott’s way of doing things. Very different ideological factions of the Liberal party, and not ones that get on together very well.

Personal guess is that Turnbull probably DIDN’T want or expect this, and that it’s as much a salvo aimed by the Abbott faction at Turnbull as much as anything else. Turnbull can either condemn Hastie and there’ll be whispers about how he’s weak on security issues, or he can endorse him and give up yet more of whatever principles he ever had in the interest of keeping his job, or he can say nothing firm either way and look weak and out of control of his own party. Which he is.


#9771

Ah yeah,… you’re right. Forgot he was an Abbott disciple …


#9772

Hastie is a WA liberal ( not a Senator) came in at a 2O15 by- election before that served in the army . As with Molan , likely to be on the right wing.
The problem for Australia is that its defence and trade interests with China do not align.
Bringing China into the WTO was seen by most as a way of minimising such conflicts and for China to follow WTO trade rules.
The problem is that China is not playing by the rules. It is using its trade power to force political stances.
This has not been helped by Trump invoking WTO security exceptions provisions ( for specious reasons) to justify trade restrictions against China.


#9773

Turns out that Hastie made his statement in the Federation Chamber which is used for more specialised business debates, which may run concurrently with House sittings. The Federation Chamber is also public unless a decision is made to hold debates in camera.
So, Turnbull may not have known but others would have. Whips should have known. Seems no-one tipped him off.
Turnbull is now checking the classified status of the documents ( which Labor members on the security and intelligence committee would also have).
Hastie is a Duntroon boy, one of the few polling booths in the ACT to favour the Liberals.


#9774

An MP can release foreign intelligence under Parliamentary privilege. Yet at Senate Estimates witnesses are refusing to answer questions and are turning down FOI requests such as how many staff have left a Minister’s office.
So much for the Senate shining a light in dark places. Estimates has become a joke when it is being treated with contempt. Expect more of it when sport comes up on 29 May in the late hours of the evening.


#9775

Australia’s Wealthiest 200 people increased their wealth by 20% over the past 12 months.

20 fkn percent!!

Trickle down economics working well.


#9776

The Libs are both childish and viscous


#9777

Like snot?
Is that childish & viscous enough?


#9778

Glad you chose snot haha


#9779

He is all the more dangerous because he is a fundie Xian. You know, the kind of people that would happily push the button because then we would all go to heaven.