Recruitment of a ruckman


#1161
Smack is such an interesting and frustrating player. He is too short for ruck and it reflects in the number of frees he gives away in contests. In 2015 he was great around the ground but that fell away in 2016 when he wasn't the exclusive ruckman. He was recruited to be a ruck forward, but unless he is engaged in the play all the time, he can get lost and be uncompetitive as a forward. Ryder suffered from this a lot and only really in his last year with us did he become more consistent when in the ruck and up forward.

I can understand why they are keeping him, because of his size and versatility, but he is not a solution for the ruck on a long term basis. I haven’t watched any VFL games but from my understanding in the VFL he dominates as a forward. That doesn’t translate to AFL. It could also be because of our delivery etc but maybe with the team back and all the crap behind us he could perform better as a forward?

We still need to recruit a genuine ruckman to develop with Gach gone maybe even two, but I think the list management for 2016 has been excellent.

Great post. I agree with everything you have said there. Also worth noting is that he was playing injured this year from what I hear. Your point about delivery into the fwd line is very valid. In 2015 our fwd’s had no chance with the stagnate ball movement. WIth quicker ball movement like we displayed late in the year there is no reason he can become a Fwd / pinch hit ruckman. But his job has been made more difficult with the recruitment of Stewart.


#1162

If anyone can iron out his kicking, I’d say the Hawks could be the side that could do it. My feel is he goes late draft, so he could be a really good get if things work out. He has the power and intangibles that I give him a fighting chance, which is all you can ask for late draft sometimes.

I have covered Ratugolea quite frequently in my weekly wraps (which can be found on page one). These are a few samples of some of the things I’ve written about Ratugolea from a quick search:
Esava Ratugolea in the last month has proven a real find for Murray in the TAC Cup with four and eight goals in his previous two outings. Against South Australia, Ratugolea stepped into the Vic Country squad and showed some attributes that made recruiters and fans alike sit up and take notice.

Ratugolea is of Fijian heritage and having only picked up the game a few years ago is said to have progressed strongly off the back of an outstanding pre-season. At 194cm, 95kg, Ratugolea while not as tall, has a physical profile reminiscent of Nic Naitanui with his power, speed and leap all attributes he uses to have an impact.

Ratugolea took several impressive aerial marks, using his spring to get up high, and his strong hands to take the marks. Ratugolea also at ground level showed some terrific signs and made a particularly impressive play when he gave a second effort, diving and tapping the loose ball onto a teammate who went on to gain possession.

What let Ratugolea down in this game was his footskills - at stages missing a snap at goal from 10m with no angle, kicking the ball out on the full from 40m directly in front and missing a target on another kick around the ground.

Ratugolea as well as playing forward also has featured through the ruck, though was soundly beaten in those minutes he relived Darcy.


While Esava Ratugolea had just 10 disposals, six marks (four contested), 16 hitouts and one score assist, his play was astounding. Ratugolea consistently flew at packs for contested marks, bringing down a number of them, but his ability to simply get to contests and compete was impressive. This type of play is something that AFL recruiters look for in forwards, so that is a big tick for Ratugolea. One area the big man can work on would be his overhead marking which if perfected could see him turn into a powerful AFL forward.

From Knightmare could hardly do worse then pick him with our last pick

and his thoughts on ruckman we could pick up

There are lots of ruck options late/rookie.

Sean Darcy, Jordan Sweet, Jeremy Goddard and Peter Ladhams of the u18s should be there in that range.

Rowan Marshall and Darcy Cameron as mature agers could also be considered.

Only information i can find on Sweet
Another ruckman who has developed impressively in the past few months is the 200cm Jordan Sweet, with the South Australian improving his fitness to compete strongly in the SANFL.

Sweet entered the national academy last year and travelled to America with the group in January, but has stepped up his running ability since the training camp and will lead SA’s midfield at the national carnival.

Ladhams
Peter Ladhams continued to show that he can be more than just a ruckman with two goals and one score assist, playing the relieving ruck role for Norwood.

Goddard
Jeremy Goddard is someone who showed plenty of good signs in 2015 and has begun the year well at WAFL Colts level averaging 35 hit outs per game. 2016 will be a year with plenty of choice for ruckman to be drafted- Whether we see one as high as Brodie Grundy (Pick 18) in 2012 it remains to be seen. Goddard will share the ruck duties for Western Australia with Tim English. Goddard follows up his ruckwork well around the ground, showing his physicality laying strong tackles.


#1163

Ratulogea sounds Majak-esque


#1164

Tom Downie still unsigned. Not a fan but he may be better than Cameron and Marshall etc…


#1165
Tom Downie still unsigned. Not a fan but he may be better than Cameron and Marshall etc...
Got pantsed against Jamar Leuy this year

Doesn’t read well
http://www.aflplayerratings.com.au/Ratings/Player/117323/Tom-DOWNIE


#1166
^ Ruck is tricky because it's the only position where you can't play 2-3 guys there during the game Eg if you have 3 developing key forwards you probably can play them all in the one side at reserves level, if you have 3 developing rucks then really only 1 is likely to get substantial game time, maybe 2 if you go closer to 50:50 Almost needs to be a gentleman's agreement that all AFL clubs will play their rookied ruckman in the development league lol

I’m pretty sure there’s nothing stopping clubs from dropping players to lower levels if they want to.


#1167
^ Ruck is tricky because it's the only position where you can't play 2-3 guys there during the game Eg if you have 3 developing key forwards you probably can play them all in the one side at reserves level, if you have 3 developing rucks then really only 1 is likely to get substantial game time, maybe 2 if you go closer to 50:50 Almost needs to be a gentleman's agreement that all AFL clubs will play their rookied ruckman in the development league lol

I’m pretty sure there’s nothing stopping clubs from dropping players to lower levels if they want to.

There isn’t, but if they do the players are playing at a level 2 away from the top so quality isn’t as high. Not such a problem for ruckman that the overall standard is lower, but specifically the development ruckman are probably either 18 y/old bean poles or undersized which is a big disadvantage in terms of development for the afl listed guy


#1168
I've seen Oscar McInerney play and he's got heaps of upside.

I thought we were linked to McInerney last year as well?


#1169

What’s Ricky Mott doing these days?


#1170
What's Ricky Mott doing these days?
Working for The Age ?

#1171
If anyone can iron out his kicking, I'd say the Hawks could be the side that could do it. My feel is he goes late draft, so he could be a really good get if things work out. He has the power and intangibles that I give him a fighting chance, which is all you can ask for late draft sometimes.

I have covered Ratugolea quite frequently in my weekly wraps (which can be found on page one). These are a few samples of some of the things I’ve written about Ratugolea from a quick search:
Esava Ratugolea in the last month has proven a real find for Murray in the TAC Cup with four and eight goals in his previous two outings. Against South Australia, Ratugolea stepped into the Vic Country squad and showed some attributes that made recruiters and fans alike sit up and take notice.

Ratugolea is of Fijian heritage and having only picked up the game a few years ago is said to have progressed strongly off the back of an outstanding pre-season. At 194cm, 95kg, Ratugolea while not as tall, has a physical profile reminiscent of Nic Naitanui with his power, speed and leap all attributes he uses to have an impact.

Ratugolea took several impressive aerial marks, using his spring to get up high, and his strong hands to take the marks. Ratugolea also at ground level showed some terrific signs and made a particularly impressive play when he gave a second effort, diving and tapping the loose ball onto a teammate who went on to gain possession.

What let Ratugolea down in this game was his footskills - at stages missing a snap at goal from 10m with no angle, kicking the ball out on the full from 40m directly in front and missing a target on another kick around the ground.

Ratugolea as well as playing forward also has featured through the ruck, though was soundly beaten in those minutes he relived Darcy.


While Esava Ratugolea had just 10 disposals, six marks (four contested), 16 hitouts and one score assist, his play was astounding. Ratugolea consistently flew at packs for contested marks, bringing down a number of them, but his ability to simply get to contests and compete was impressive. This type of play is something that AFL recruiters look for in forwards, so that is a big tick for Ratugolea. One area the big man can work on would be his overhead marking which if perfected could see him turn into a powerful AFL forward.

From Knightmare could hardly do worse then pick him with our last pick

and his thoughts on ruckman we could pick up

There are lots of ruck options late/rookie.

Sean Darcy, Jordan Sweet, Jeremy Goddard and Peter Ladhams of the u18s should be there in that range.

Rowan Marshall and Darcy Cameron as mature agers could also be considered.

Only information i can find on Sweet
Another ruckman who has developed impressively in the past few months is the 200cm Jordan Sweet, with the South Australian improving his fitness to compete strongly in the SANFL.

Sweet entered the national academy last year and travelled to America with the group in January, but has stepped up his running ability since the training camp and will lead SA’s midfield at the national carnival.

Ladhams
Peter Ladhams continued to show that he can be more than just a ruckman with two goals and one score assist, playing the relieving ruck role for Norwood.

Goddard
Jeremy Goddard is someone who showed plenty of good signs in 2015 and has begun the year well at WAFL Colts level averaging 35 hit outs per game. 2016 will be a year with plenty of choice for ruckman to be drafted- Whether we see one as high as Brodie Grundy (Pick 18) in 2012 it remains to be seen. Goddard will share the ruck duties for Western Australia with Tim English. Goddard follows up his ruckwork well around the ground, showing his physicality laying strong tackles.

I like Darcy! What are our VFL rucks like? If not from our own VFL team and delisted AFL rucks where else can we find them? Basketball? We need a guy over 200cm

#1172

I’d take Goddard over Cameron, did better in every category in testing, is younger and if i remember correctly also taller


#1173

Take the big lump from the falcons.


#1174

@Nocturnal

That’s darcy


#1175

Darcy the young Mumford type one yeah?


#1176
Darcy the young Mumford type one yeah?

A RUCKMAN in the Shane Mumford mould could be the latest Cobden export to grace the AFL stage.

Geelong Falcons’ Sean Darcy will return to TAC Cup ranks on Saturday following school commitments with Xavier College, eager to boost his draft chances.

Falcons talent manager Michael Turner said the 200-centimetre powerhouse attracted interest from the top level after impressive performances for Vic Country at the AFL under 18 national championships.

Turner believes Darcy could join fellow Cobden talents Ben Cunnington (North Melbourne), Gary Rohan (Sydney) and Jackson and Zach Merrett (Essendon) at the top level come November’s draft.

“The boy from Cobden is a chance,” he said.

“There is a lot of interest in him. He’s over 200cm and competes a bit like (Greater Western Sydney ruckman) Mumford.”

Darcy, who has played four games for the Falcons in 2016, will use the next six weeks to push his case.

Turner said the strong-bodied Darcy was a long-term prospect who needed to shed weight and improve his mobility.

“If we strip weight off him, it’ll make him more mobile and he’ll become a good ruckman,” he said.

“He’s a good tap ruckman, his second and third efforts are good and he’s a good kick.”

Darcy made his Hampden league senior debut for Cobden in 2015.

He was named in the Bombers’ best and kicked a goal in his sole appearance for his home club.


#1177

Darcy made his Hampden league senior debut for Cobden in 2015. He was named in the Bombers’ best and kicked a goal in his sole appearance for his home club

WANT. Exactly the sort of bloke that should be on the list.


#1178

FOOTY FACTORY


#1179

Interesting if we went him after gach, fat vs skinny


#1180

Definitely need another ruck on the senior list.

Preferable one who can actually contribute should they be called upon. Perhaps the big bodied young player would be the way to go as beanpole cant get it done.

Off the top of my head when Freo had all of Sandi, Griffin & Clarke out they had to roll dice with an 18-19yr old, I think it was maybe Hannath and he did ok.

At what pick would Darcy be in the range to get looked at? It’s noted many clubs keen. pick 29?