Season 2020 - Collingwood

Yep.

That’s ■■■■■■ them.

Two weeks ago they were looking like just about the best team in it, or at least with the best credentials, now they are cooked I reckon.

Howe is massive for them. Throw in the Sidebottom and De Goey sagas and I can’t see them winning it this year.

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I did say traditions, plural.

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Yes, apparently they forgot about the uncertainty of the hubs for most of the first qtr though.

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I remember having the unfortunate experience of sitting in a Collingwood area the next time we played them. Most of them were all sarcastically yelling our “sorry” to longy all game. Disgusting. I took exception to that and challenged one of them and almost got into a fight. At half time one Collingwood supporting girl did come up to me to also express her disgust at their behavior.

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ptsd dog

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im a bit younger, but even in the mid 2000’s going to the pies games with my mate who supports them. i would regularly hear horrid sh&t. We were at a pies vs Dees game in maybe 2004-5ish and heard Aaron Davey being called things that i shouldn’t write on blitz.

Awful stuff said about their own players too. Heard one guy screaming about “why is that &&%&&%$ in our fking club???” talking about Andrew Krakouer.

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Glass houses? We probably have some of those types among Bomber fans also.

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All clubs do. but that doesent give them an out for this kind if behavior if everyone does it. its always been a recurring problem with Collingwood. and having experienced it in person, its led me to have a real axe to grind with that club :stuck_out_tongue: .

some good pies scandals listed here.
http://www.convictcreations.com/football/collingwood.htm#.XwaK32gzYps

There is an Australians adage that defines the difference between a friend and a mate with some criminal vernacular. Specifically,

“If you go out for a big night but some misfortune comes your way and you end up in a holding cell, your good friend will be there trying to organise your bail, but your best mate will be in there beside you.”

Admittedly, the adage is not widely known in Australia. In fact, given its criminal associations, it is probably more accurate to say it’s a Collingwood adage rather than an Australian adage. There the Pie fans see scandal but instead of running a mile, they say they want a piece of that as well. Side by side, they say we’re in the ■■■■ together.

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Would love hear to some stories about what it was like going to vic park to watch bombers v pies, I moved to melbs in 01from perth so only got to Afl stadiums, went to quite a few subiaco games bombers v eagles and vividly remember being abused by little old ladies .

The umbrella abuse by the old dears at the boundary fence was legendary. Sometimes they would do sneakily - just a quick jab to the ankles or middle of your back. But sometimes it was a whack to the head or legs.

I was a 10 yo kid at the time and I wasn’t doing anything other than supporting the bombers.

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Are you saying he’d still be playing and would have obliterated Harvey’s all times games record by about 150 games?

I was at Vic Park in 1984, the day Fish did his knee (I was 9).
For some stupid reason we were sitting in the Coll members stand along the wing.
I had my Bombers flag, was allowed to wave it once before it was “suggested” that that be the first and last time.

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put your house on hawthorn this week

Honestly, i’d be hesitant. Clubs often come out firing when they’ve been up against it all week.

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Buckleys comments today were alarming imo. sounded like Simpson a few weeks ago

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I didn’t hear them. He was so bloody flat after our game. More than usual after a loss. I’ve got a feeling he knew what was coming for DeGoey the following morning. :oncoming_police_car:

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I do enjoy the irony of the ever-professional Nathan Buckley being bound to leading a club full of unprofessional dikheads and scumbags

And the norf scum think we’re their real-rivals lol

Buckley to Collingwood was a real sliding doors moment with the “what ifs” on par with the ones surrounding West to Essendon

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Pies also tried this move on us with Connor McKenna. The ol’ lad told em to f3ck off

Mick Warner is tightening the noose around Eddie’s neck. The rap sheet for the players is second to none over the past 20 years.

COLLINGWOOD’S RAP SHEET IN THE McGUIRE ERA

May 2000: Chris Tarrant and Mal Michael are booted from Crown Casino by security staff at 2am .

May 2001: Tarrant pleads guilty to careless driving and driving while suspended after doing a burnout and leaving a 17m skid mark on Beaconsfield Parade, Albert Park.

Sept 2003: Tarrant and Ben Johnson are involved in a fight at the Lower Plenty Hotel.

Dec 2003: Dane Swan is charged with affray after a drunken brawl at Federation Square. Receives 100 hours of community service.

Feb 2004: Ben Johnson breaks his hand and requires surgery after an early morning incident at a hotel.

Chris Tarrant had a few off-field issues in his early days at Collingwood.

March 2004: Tristen Walker and Tom Davidson face the Heidelberg Magistrates’ Court after stealing two bundles of newspapers outside a Templestowe newsagency.

May 2004: Cameron Cloke clocks 144km/h in 100km/h zone. Loses licence for six months and fined $360 by a magistrate. Club fines him $5000. TAC docks club $10,000 from its sponsorship.

May 2004: Rhyce Shaw is punched at an Eltham bar while celebrating teammate Julian Rowe’s 19th birthday. The club fines a group of players for boozing midweek.

June 2004: Collingwood players damage a Mooloolaba hotel in Queensland during a mid-season break. One defecates and another vomits off a balcony.

“It just seems that whenever anything happens at our football club, it’s alcohol-fuelled. Basically, it just comes down to young people who can’t handle their grog,’’ McGuire said.

Aug 2004: Tarrant is involved in a 4am nightclub fight with Essendon’s Mark Johnson.

Oct 2004: Tom Davidson pleads guilty to punching a taxi driver in the head.

Dec 2005: Brodie Holland punches a woman in the head during a fight over a cab in the city at 3.30am. He later pleads guilty and is fined $2500 without conviction.

April 2006: Chad Morrison blows .093 while riding his motor scooter. The TAC fines the Magpies $200,000 for a breach of its sponsorship agreement.

Tarrant and Ben Johnson at Collingwood training. They were interviewed by police after a 4am brawl in 2006.

Aug 2006: Tarrant and Johnson are interviewed by police after a 4am brawl in a Port Melbourne car park. Both are fined $5000 for breaking curfew but not suspended.

“The discipline has been very good this year,” McGuire said. “They just got themselves into the wrong situation. There’s no joy after 2am or 1.30am. I know boys will be boys but they should have known better … It’s not an endemic problem with our football club.”

Oct 2006: Alan Didak is arrested and locked in a police cell over an altercation with a taxi driver, winning the Copeland Trophy the following night.

“Those who do not give us every opportunity to achieve on-field success will no longer be tolerated. On-field and off-field discipline and commitment are essential to success in any business,” McGuire said.

June 2007: Didak signs new contract conditions, including an agreement to quit drinking, after nightclubbing and joy-riding with bikie and CBD shooter Christopher Wayne Hudson, but is not suspended.

“The easiest thing to do last week would have been to suspend him,’’ McGuire said. “The message has been sent to him loud and clear.”

Jan 2008: Sharrod Wellingham is arrested on a drink-driving charge after blowing 0.13 at Lorne. The club forfeits a $500,000 TAC sponsorship and fines player $5000.

“No there’s not (a drinking problem at the club),’’ McGuire said. “There’s a situation out there since time immemorial with people drinking too much. There’s a far bigger alcohol problem with journalists than there is with footballers. I know because I’m involved in both sides of the ledger there. So let’s not beat this up into a big story that’s not there, OK.”

Eddie McGuire and Sharrod Wellingham front a press conference after he was arrested on a drink-driving charge.

Aug 2008: Heath Shaw blows 0.14 after crashing into two parked cars in Kew and lies about Didak being a passenger in the car.

“Didak will be accused of the Kennedy shooting next,” McGuire said

March 2010: Ryan Cook pleads guilty to negligently causing serious injury and is fined $3500 after breaking 10 bones in a man’s face outside a Sale nightclub.

May 2010: Simon Buckley is suspended for three games and sent to counselling for running a key down the side of his ex-girlfriend’s BMW.

July 2010: Dane Swan suffers damage to his teeth after being king hit in a Southbank nightclub.

Oct 2010: Two Collingwood players are linked to a police rape investigation in the hours after the club’s drought-breaking premiership. Both are later cleared.

Feb 2011: McGuire apologises for describing western Sydney as the “land of the falafel”.

July 2011: Heath Shaw is banned for 14 games (six suspended) and fined $20,000 for betting on captain Nick Maxwell to kick the first goal of a match. Maxwell, a defender who started the game as a forward, is fined $10,000 (half suspended) after his family placed the same bets.

“Everybody should know that this can’t happen. The integrity of the game is everything,” McGuire said.

Geoff Walsh, Heath Shaw, Nick Maxwell and McGuire front the media after the betting scandal.

March 2012: Sharrod Wellingham is suspended for two weeks for drinking alcohol while injured and missing a rehabilitation session.

March 2012: Paul Cribbin is bashed in a 2.40am CBD assault.

“They shouldn’t have been out anyway and again it’s the old motto: nothing good happens after 1am,” McGuire said.

Aug 2012: Dane Swan is suspended for two weeks for turning up to training in an “unfit state” affected by alcohol after a Sunday session.

“My position is this; the club has put in place a framework that will deliver success,” McGuire said.

Nov 2012: Collingwood chief executive Gary Pert warns of “volcanic” illicit drug use among AFL players.

Dec 2012: AFL doctors raise alarm about a group of Collingwood players avoiding drug strikes by “self-reporting” and exploiting a loophole in the game’s illicit drugs policy.

May 2013: McGuire suggests Adam Goodes be used to help promote King Kong the musical. “You know with the ape thing,” McGuire said

April 2014: Marley Williams is found guilty of grievous bodily harm and receives a 12-month suspended jail sentence following a four-day trial at Albany District Court in Western Australia over a 2012 nightclub fight.

June 2014: McGuire defends Dane Swan’s attendance at a $200-a-head dinner promoted by Mick Gatto.

“Dane Swan is a boy from Broadmeadows; his dad Billy’s a Painter and Docker, his cousin Aaron Ramsey is in the building trade, and you know people as you go through life. If you grow up in Broadmeadows, you’re going to know colourful identities.”

Lachlan Keeffe and Josh Thomas copped two-year drug bans after testing positive for a performance-enhancing that was “cut” into cocaine. Picture: Michael Klein

March 2015: Lachlan Keeffe and Josh Thomas test positive to the performance-enhancing substance Clenbuterol “cut” into cocaine they consumed. Both are suspended for two years.

March 2015: McGuire refers to Victorian sports minister John Eren as a “soccer loving Turkish-born Mussie” at an AFL meeting.

Jan 2016: Dane Swan and Travis Cloke are embroiled in an explicit “selfies” scandal involving photos, videos and messages leaked to Woman’s Day.

“Good to know Swanny’s got room for some more tatts,” McGuire said. “It’s got nothing to do with Collingwood. Ring their managers and the players’ association.”

March 2016: Multiple Magpies players test positive to illicit drugs after off-season hair-tests results are leaked to the media.

June 2016: McGuire apologises for saying he would pay $50,000 to see journalist Caroline Wilson stay under a pool of iced water.

March 2017: Jordan De Goey lies about breaking his hand while playing with his dog after a fight in a St Kilda bar. Suspended for three weeks and fined $5000.

Sept 2017: Andrew Krakouer publicly backs Heritier Lumumba’s claim he was nicknamed ‘Chimp’ during his time at the club and reveals he was pressured into playing a game in May 2013 after McGuire directed his King Kong jibe at Goodes.

“I’ve spoken to some people and I’ve found different things, the nuances I had no idea,” McGuire later said this year

Nov 2017: Jamie Elliott is arrested for urinating into a rubbish bin in Victoria St at 4.50am.

Feb 2018: Jordan De Goey blows .095 at a random breath test while on P-plates at Beaconsfield Parade in Port Melbourne.

“You’ve got to be careful on these things not to overreact but at the same time make sure we get the right result for society and for our club and for Jordan,” McGuire said.

Jordan De Goey broke his hand in a bar fight and lied about it. Picture: Getty

Jordan De Goey broke his hand in a bar fight and lied about it. Picture: Getty

Sam Murray tested positive to cocaine in a match-day test. Picture: Michael Klein

Sam Murray tested positive to cocaine in a match-day test. Picture: Michael Klein

Aug 2018: Sam Murray tests positive to cocaine during an ASADA match day test. Suspended for 18 months.

“The last person to find out anything to do with drugs is the club itself. It’s an AFL issue,” McGuire said

March 2019: McGuire is forced to apologise after mocking double amputee Cynthia Banham when she conducted the coin toss for a match between Sydney and Adelaide.

June 2019: Jaidyn Stephenson is banned for 22 weeks (12 suspended) and fined $20,000 for betting on matches he was playing in.

“Let’s clean the whole thing up. If you have an amnesty, you put all things down and clean the slate and start again,” McGuire said.

July 2019: De Goey is caught driving while suspended and using his phone while driving.

June 2020: Steele Sidebottom breaks AFL COVID-19 protocols and is suspended for a month after being picked up by police drunk and half-naked on the streets of Williamstown at 7.30am.

“The old fashioned was asleep on the couch and got up to go to the bathroom and walked out the wrong door,” McGuire said.

July 2020: Collingwood orders an independent inquiry into allegations of racism at the club between 2005-2014.

“We want to find the truth all the way through this. It’s not about trying to hide anything or manipulate, this is absolutely going to be straightforward, we want to do something,” McGuire said.

July 2020: Jordan De Goey is charged with indecent assault over a 2015 incident.

“He’s innocent until proven guilty. We are very conscious of looking after the complainant in this situation as well … that was 2015 allegedly an incident happened and now we are in 2020,” McGuire said on Wednesday.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/collingwood/collingwood-has-long-list-of-offfield-incidents-involving-players-during-eddie-mcguires-presidency/news-story/6ab13c9847018f1d7129130b3a397013

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