Sorry Saga - “It’s actually quite funny people thinking they know more than they actually do”

[mrjez]

Id be flat as a tack if I was one of the 34. Wont be surprised if we see a poor showing from us at the game tonight.

Nah, I wouldn’t think that would be the case. They’d just be concentrating on their footy.

[HirdMentality]

Surely the most likely funder would be someone from a coterie? Or someone with a serious axe to grind with the AFL. Then you have the timing with the fairfax/9 deal.

[Bessie]

Watching the game with so much anger and disappointment, so gutted over the JT outcome.

[bigallan]

Yes, but , in addition to the Essendon win tonight over Sydney, I took pleasure in Gil - the AFL CEO- humbling himself by standing by the bench to discourage the runners from going on to the ground - after he did the big climb down on the dead rubber trials.
And Gordon can present the outcome in any way he wants. Sure Taylor ran out funds and was forced to a settlement, but that means something.
Why did the AFL agree to settlle, as stated by Warner.? Warner is not one to get his facts wrong.

[ROOKIE]

What’s to stop someone else from taking up the exact same case against the AFL, they can’t settle with everyone

[alex.f.94]

Shouldn’t this thread be closed.

Agreed. It’s now a part of the clubs history. Done, dusted… well and truly time to leave it behind us.

[ROOKIE]

So “history” should never be discussed?

[alex.f.94]

Yeah, nut mulled over ad nauseum though.

[ROOKIE]

Don’t like it, don’t come to the thread. Don’t see me going to the soccer thread complaining about how I don’t like the game… lots of other threads to go to… some of us will never get over it. Even if we are told to.

[barnz]

stargazer sub forum there is that way.

[alex.f.94]

Don’t like it, don’t come to the thread. Don’t see me going to the soccer thread complaining about how I don’t like the game… lots of other threads to go to… some of us will never get over it. Even if we are told to.

I’ll never understand why.

[CyberBomber]

Yeah, they can

[Finding_Nino]

Fair enough just don’t understand people wanting to keep talking about it.

[handypoint]

At its worst (ie everything that I read in judgement/alleged is true) Dank administered a program that was a year too late.

Pre 2012 it nay have been defendable. (the bookkeeping is not, but the alleged thymosin use was still to be banned).

The club putting its hand up and admitting it didn’t know for sure it had ran a proper program.

That’s unforgivable by the people running the club. Right then and there, at the very start of it all IMHO you have the darkest spot.

Doesn’t matter as much I don’t think if the AFL was incompetent or corrupted as part of it. Not in terms of the actual program and what went into the players bodies.

[BLOODSTAINED_DEVILS]

Fair enough just don’t understand people wanting to keep talking about it.

No one said you had to. I don’t understand people not understanding, … or why they have to come in here if they don’t want to talk about it, just to tell others they shouldn’t be talking about something they want to talk about. Live & let fkn live.

There is a thread mute button,… feel free to use it.

[Scorpio]

Last time he asked for help people questioned his motives.

[Scorpio]

Timing is whats got me stumped. The time for the big $$$ was when it was before the judge - thats when a silk like Burnside costs 10-15K per day. He got past that initial stage & was awarded costs, all the money spent should have come back. Right now should have been the time when they were getting access to the AFL’s records - you know the stuff they have been so keen to hide BUT I can’t see how right now is when the money has run out. It makes no sense, disclosure isn’t the expensive part of the process. I know who some of the backers are/were & I know why at least 1 has other issues to contend with but again this simply reeks of corruption. Having got past the biggest hurdle (getting the case approved to progress) why not make a public appeal for funds now. People were reluctant to invest from the start because it seemed a very long shot in the dark but now its right at the point where the AFL have been ordered to face up. I have no doubt at all a public appeal would have been more fruitful now. Why not stay the course until at least you get access to the AFL’s dirty laundry & have something to seek a real settlement with?

The whole thing has been a complete waste of time & a further kick in the guts.

I’m pretty sure that Burnside got on board for free (could be wrong), and Jackson certainly feels like he has been kicked in the guts after all the work he has put in.

If the money to actually progress the case was no longer there, through AFL influence at one level or another, to go ahead and risk being required to pay the AFL’s costs would have bankrupted Jackson, no doubt, if he had no backers.

And, as I said above, he clearly didn’t want to spend the money of the common folk, which probably would have been nowhere near enough, and achieved not much anyway, and he would be left owing the remainder of the costs the public couldn’t cover.

The AFL had the ability to make this as expensive as they liked, and, if they held all the cards, this put Jackson in a very bad position. If walking the way without bearing the AFL’s costs was the only way of avoiding financial ruin, it was a fair call.

As Jackson said at the outset with his backer, when the dollars run out, the plane falls out of the sky.

I believe Burnside may have been paid.

[mdso]

Maybe it just wasn’t JUST about the funding. Other unspoken problems?

He has been through this before with the AFL and he thought he might have to work overseas. No more to be said.

[mdso]

Never question JT’s motives it was all about injustice and process. He does not barrack for the Bombers as suggested in the Sun. I think he follows Carlton.

I think the whole Justice and the Law process from go to who has really disappointed him.

[mdso]

Let’s put it this way, the spinning wheels within wheels and the tentacle connections of the “boys club.” I have seen it in action before. So many tools at their disposal and once favours are called in, things can change quickly.

I applaud JT for his belief in the cause, his perseverance, his guts and determination. Thank you JT.