Terrorist attack, Christchurch NZ

bigallan · March 16, 2019, 6:45am

Have just checked the 2017 National Firearms Agreement.
Para 30 of that Agreement provides that jurisdictions / Federal/State/Territory) agree to the nation wide registration of all firearms.
Paragraph 31 provides for sharing of databases of all jurisdictions.

Heffsgirl · March 16, 2019, 6:47am

Add resources for Police and upgrade ICT systems for checks.

mdso · March 16, 2019, 6:47am

Facebook and all similar sites and the news media should NOT show or print anything of this nature live. All doing this does is energises people with the very same mind set and gives them ideas.
THE LIVE SHOWING OF WHAT HAPPENED SHOULD BE REMOVED IMMEDIATELY.
It is a damn disgrace.

To all those in NZ, may we express our sadness for this despicable action in your country. To all the people, friends and families involved in this tragedy, may your god watch over and show you compassion at this sad time. To everyone around the world, please think about what has happened in NZ to those who are now suffering, please light a candle and send loving kindness.

Hoffy · March 16, 2019, 6:51am

Really good thread about guns/licences in Aust and NZ

simmo41 · March 16, 2019, 6:52am

Crazy_Bomber:

Mate that’s a fantastic pretentious rant on the possibilities of him being racist based on nothing but heresay, but with all due respect you have no clue whatsover and made your bias clear from the opening, so it’s hard to take anything you say with a balanced viewpoint. If you’ve watched two videos than your viewpoint is not valid because you have a very limited base to make accurate judgments and forming them from google searches and media clickbait stories.

Whether you think he’s funny or not or shrieks too much because he did it on one video three years ago really isn’t the point and has no bearing, clearly he has nearly 90 million subscribers for a reason, and you don’t get that without trying to be entertaining. If you make one or two videos every day for 8+ years occasionally you’ll say something silly, which every time he has humbly apologised for, as I’m sure there was a time in your life you said something silly but I don’t think that means you’re a racist. Or maybe you are? I don’t know.

I think it’s very easy to call someone a racist without any evidence to back it u, people love to throw it around and love even more when it grabs clickbait stories and they can cut videos to invent stories. He’s posted his thoughts on them so feel free to watch them, or not,. And for those playing at home the reason why that guy said “sub to pewdiepie” is because it’s a very popular internet phenomonia of T Series vs PewdiePie for subs where celebrities like Dr Phil jump on the bandwagon for fun…but I’m not going to hold your hand to work that one out.

I know very little about the bloke, and all that I do know I learned against my will.

Maybe I’m different from most. The minute someone used my name, ironically or otherwise, in a video of them murdering other people, I’d pack everything up and go home.

Europhoric · March 16, 2019, 6:52am

That’s all well and good but there will have to be a heap of people monitoring the site 24/7 - wouldn’t surprise me that none of the viewers reported it as they wouldn’t have believed what they were seeing and were probably thinking that it couldnt possibly be real. I certainly didn’t actively seek out the footage.

simmo41 · March 16, 2019, 6:55am

I’m getting far too much glee out of this type of thing happening to several “”“journalists”"" on Twitter today

Heffsgirl · March 16, 2019, 6:56am

Beat me to it mate!

Hoffy · March 16, 2019, 7:00am

Great minds think alike.

Benny40 · March 16, 2019, 7:02am

saladin · March 16, 2019, 7:03am

Sorry mate, we have our wires crossed. I was talking about New Zealand.

Yes, Australia absolutely has registration. Though it’s not always completely accurate.

Dons-All-The-Way · March 16, 2019, 7:03am

handypoint:

right. would make sense. extremist views arent welcome, but you have to tolerate and condemn them. Jacinda Ardern strikes me as an intelligent woman who would choose her words carefully.

Ban guns absolutely, there purpose is to kill.

But unless you debate and discuss all opinion you cant make it evident how sick and twisted it may be.

I heard her words on political views not welcome in New Zealand or anywhere in the world. Comments were spot on.

this Christchurch terror attack to me demonstrates evil has no colour and can be harboured in all places.

finally people may realise terror can come as easily from a white middle class westerner as much as it can come from people of an african/middle eastern/south east asian descent etc.

it would make perfect sense there is a white problem in Australia or New Zealand. because the population is overwhelmingly white.

And whilst victim blaming like that nutjob australian politician is abhorrent, it is when poorly educated groups of different ethinic/race or general difference with a particular propensity for violence(eg some men) are poorly mixed that tensions occur.

Throw in guns and the absolute worst happens.

Love and Education is the only answer to this. Sure control migration and ban guns but only in the context of those first two things.

I grew up in country Australia. I know how racist it can be through ignorance.

I have plenty of male friends who were raised in single sex schools and know how sexist it can be through ignorance.

And I know plenty of people with a very poor religious education and I know how intolerant they can be, through ignorance.

We could heal society today through love, education and removal of condoned segregation.

I’d ban single sex schools, religious schools(and replace with a broad religious education across all Faith in schools),slowly increase migration to country areas and faith in humankind to see past their differences when they live together.

And no I am not some socialist idealist.

this sort of action is what is whats needed after horrible acts like this.

I personally think religion does not belong in schools period.

HirdMentality · March 16, 2019, 7:05am

How else could one debunk religion??

BLOODSTAINED_DEVILS · March 16, 2019, 7:05am

Except in a full semester of a Year 9 or 10 History class, I agree.

bigallan · March 16, 2019, 7:09am

Journalists from the Age and C10 intervened at what they saw as undue force and then got booted from the meeting, accompanied by profanities from Anning’s staff.

HirdMentality · March 16, 2019, 7:09am

Fraser Anning was lucky it was a 12 year old boy that ‘attacked’ him, if I were advising him I’d be encouraging him to increase his security substantially

Dons-All-The-Way · March 16, 2019, 7:14am

Religion in history is pretty much a given, based on how much religion has influenced certain parts of history. So difficult to leave it out of high school history.

One thing that actually has been annoying me is this whole concept of “they are new zealanders too” when referring to the muslim population in nz. Using the words they is immediately classifying them as different. It should just be “we are all new zealanders, and we all stand together in condemning this”.

benfti · March 16, 2019, 7:25am

is_good_is_don · March 16, 2019, 7:37am

“You’re nothing but a weak f–ing etc. etc.” said Anning’s goon as he holds the kid in a headlock.

Because that’s their biggest putdown… ‘you’re weak, we’re strong’. He says this to a skinny 17 year old… and doesn’t see the irony. A truly strong person wouldnt see an opportunity to show off their ‘strength’ against a skinny kid… or a bunch of little kids at their place of worship for that matter. Scum.

barnz · March 16, 2019, 7:39am

wonder wht anning would name his political party? golden dawn?