The mega gnashing of teeth, save the players etc

Wouldn't surprise me if Hirdy walked, honestly how much more can this guy take?

I think he can back from it, but geez he looked fried in the box last week.
It looked like he was thinking the things I was yelling at the television.
‘Well, that was ■■■■.’
‘Faaaaaaaaaark me.’
‘Here’s an idea, kick it to someone wearing the same colours.’
‘Right, of course they pull that one out of their ■■■■.’
‘Oh, god-■■■■■■■-damnit, really?

Yep. I felt pretty sorry for him last week, he just looked broken.

Poor guy goes through all the sh*t he has… Only for the team to fall to pieces. It’s hard to take as a supporter, I don’t know how he handles it.

Wouldn't surprise me if Hirdy walked, honestly how much more can this guy take?

So which coteries politics are you actually pushing here?

Gooooood question.

Didn't all of Voss' assistants leave after his 1st year because he had NFI & was dictatorial? How'd that turn out??

It improved the club a fair bit actually.

Might not mean much but just saw this on Twitter:

Derryn Hinch ‏@HumanHeadline 11 minutes ago Hot footy gossip: Essendon crisis mtg 8.30-11 tmrw. Past players, legends, officials. Agenda: Where is club going?
Didn't all of Voss' assistants leave after his 1st year because he had NFI & was dictatorial? How'd that turn out??

It improved the club a fair bit actually.


Yep, his win/loss record in his 1st year was 60% & went to 34% from then on in - what a huge improvement!
Didn't all of Voss' assistants leave after his 1st year because he had NFI & was dictatorial? How'd that turn out??

It improved the club a fair bit actually.


Yep, his win/loss record in his 1st year was 60% & went to 34% from then on in - what a huge improvement!

For Vossy that’s an improvement!

Might not mean much but just saw this on Twitter:
Derryn Hinch ‏@HumanHeadline 11 minutes ago Hot footy gossip: Essendon crisis mtg 8.30-11 tmrw. Past players, legends, officials. Agenda: Where is club going?

Oh boy. It begins.

Full support of the board.
Hird is contracted.
Hird isn’t sacked.
Hird is sacked.
We haven’t spoken to Worsfold.
Well we have but not seriously.
Look James is a quality person.

Might not mean much but just saw this on Twitter:
Derryn Hinch ‏@HumanHeadline 11 minutes ago Hot footy gossip: Essendon crisis mtg 8.30-11 tmrw. Past players, legends, officials. Agenda: Where is club going?

Oh boy. It begins.

Full support of the board.
Hird is contracted.
Hird isn’t sacked.
Hird is sacked.
We haven’t spoken to Worsfold.
Well we have but not seriously.
Look James is a quality person.


I think it’s just to work out a catchy slogan for 2016.
Might not mean much but just saw this on Twitter:
Derryn Hinch ‏@HumanHeadline 11 minutes ago Hot footy gossip: Essendon crisis mtg 8.30-11 tmrw. Past players, legends, officials. Agenda: Where is club going?

Oh boy. It begins.

Full support of the board.
Hird is contracted.
Hird isn’t sacked.
Hird is sacked.
We haven’t spoken to Worsfold.
Well we have but not seriously.
Look James is a quality person.


I think it’s just to work out a catchy slogan for 2016.

how about

“we suck but we are quality people”

“WE ARE GOING”

or

“SOMETHING IS COOKED”

Johnny Wooshfold?

Might not mean much but just saw this on Twitter:
Derryn Hinch ‏@HumanHeadline 11 minutes ago Hot footy gossip: Essendon crisis mtg 8.30-11 tmrw. Past players, legends, officials. Agenda: Where is club going?

Why the fark would they need a crisis meeting to discuss this? And what do past players and legends have to do with anything.

This is what the review announced would be for.

Not having a go at you mate, but gee there are alot of farking muppets out there trying to sensationalise the most trivial things, glad I’m not on twitter.

Might not mean much but just saw this on Twitter:
Derryn Hinch ‏@HumanHeadline 11 minutes ago Hot footy gossip: Essendon crisis mtg 8.30-11 tmrw. Past players, legends, officials. Agenda: Where is club going?

Why the fark would they need a crisis meeting to discuss this? And what do past players and legends have to do with anything.

This is what the review announced would be for.

Not having a go at you mate, but gee there are alot of farking muppets out there trying to sensationalise the most trivial things, glad I’m not on twitter.

Yeah fair call. X gon giv it to ya swiftly corrected Derryn himself with a tweet of his own.

Maybe Hirdy was a better when he had more blonde?

What was the coaching panel when Hird first got here?
Hird, Wellman, Bomber, Goodwin, McCartney and Egan?
In 2013 it was Hird, Bomber, Goodwin, Egan and ???
As it stands now…
Hird, Egan, Harvey, Bassett, Neeld and Skipworth.

I think Neeld will stay on. He wasn’t great at Melbourne, but from what Hird says, he works well with the younger players and he does have good form from his assistant coaching days at Collingwood.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Dustin Fletcher comes in as an assistant next season.
It would be great if we could give another recently retired player (like Lenny Hayes) as an assistant.
Hird then needs an experience right hand man. Someone who is good tactically. I don’t mind Harvey, but I don’t think tactics are his strength. I doubt we’d be able to grab someone who is currently an assistant coach. If there is someone we can find in SANFL, VFL or Junior levels who fits the bill, that would be great. Otherwise, it may be best to get the best footy brain we can find.

Who is a great coach ?

Sheedy, Malthouse, Pagan, all wom multiple flags and all got the sack.

2013, Hird was 13 wins 3 loses and I was ready for Grand Final day.

■■■■■ happens, and the only constant factor is you need the players to kick the goals to win the game. So maybe I could coach a great team to a flag, or Sheedy could win a flag with half a team or not.

Truth is that 2015 is done and dusted, so move on to 2016.

Sorry I’m late but Dill basically got my point in one. I must preface it by saying I don’t really believe you can see from where we are which assistant coaches are good and bad. Bassett may move on and we’d replace him. You might replace one more if internally he’s clearly not gelling with the others (or Skippy if as Barnz says he’s really woeful)

My point is simple - and I’d also like to point out I believe Hird should be given next year to show his wares with a conscience-clear side and try and earn another contract.

BUT if you decide to make a big move at the end of this season because - as this topic says “the team is crap, this is not good enough, enough is enough, let’s make some changes to this cack coaching panel we have”, it is ludicrous to make the big sweeping change of sacking everyone (or near enough to everyone) BUT keep the unproven (on the whole), nonperforming senior coach. That we would look at it and go “yeah you’re right guys, it’s a real ■■■■■■ box, let’s surround our boy HIRDY with some better assistants, that’ll fix the problem amirite guys?” is absolutely ludicrous. It would be like deciding to cut the list ultra deep and do a huge rebuild of the list around Steinberg and Melksham.

Again, replace one, maybe 2 if there’s a really good assistant coach available or we feel it’s necessary to move someone on. I don’t think the hypothetical “sack everyone” is worth discussing because it’s no chance of happening. But someone (forgive me I can’t recall who) mentioned that we should sack and replace every assistant coach and keep Hird. If we did that that would be the point at which this club truly jumps the shark.

ESSENDON coach James Hird remains confident he’ll keep his job once a full-scale review of the club’s football department is complete.

Hird has been under increasing pressure this year as the World Anti-Doping Agency prepares to make its appeal against the AFL Anti-Doping Tribunal’s findings into the club’s 2012 supplements program, recording just five wins for the season, with a review into the football department launched last week.

Former North Melbourne forward David King wrote in today’s Herald Sun that Hird and the Bombers’ brand of football has “failed all year” and that “this current regime has failed and more particularly the confidence in these leaders has been lost”.

But Hird remains of the belief that the club will keep him on, with his contract set to run until the end of 2016.

“I think so, but that’s not really for me to speculate,” he said today.

“My job is to coach the team as well as I can, win as many games as we can and play the best football we can over the next four weeks. That’s what I can do.

“Speculating or worrying about how a review is going that’s underway is not my role. I will do the best job I can and the result will be what it will be.”

As far as he is concerned, the WADA “cloud” will remain whoever is in charge.

“There’s no doubt that until the WADA decision is handed down there is still a cloud over the club. And until that gets removed, then we’re all just waiting,” Hird said.

“But whether I’m at the club or someone else is the coach, that WADA appeal will still be there. I think once that goes, and we believe the guys will be found not guilty, then we can all move on.”

He is adamant that despite another week of explosive revelations, the team has its eye firmly on tomorrow’s clash with Adelaide.

Bombers midfielder Brendon Goddard lashed those who have leaked information throughout the investigation process as “cowards”, with former interim coach Mark Thompson saying last week that the club is “drowning” and “going nowhere” with players “mentally damaged”, but Hird insists the latest developments have had no impact on his side.

“They’re upbeat, they just want to play,” he said.

“The guys have been through a lot obviously but they just want to play footy and be allowed to play football with as little trouble as possible, as little hype as possible.”

Tayte Pears will return for his first game since 2013, but Michael Hurley will miss another week with a knee injury.

“We thought it’d be a one-week injury, then a two-week injury and he may have just stirred it up last week … we’re very confident he’ll be right next week,” Hird said.

Sorry I'm late but Dill basically got my point in one. I must preface it by saying I don't really believe you can see from where we are which assistant coaches are good and bad. Bassett may move on and we'd replace him. You might replace one more if internally he's clearly not gelling with the others (or Skippy if as Barnz says he's really woeful)

My point is simple - and I’d also like to point out I believe Hird should be given next year to show his wares with a conscience-clear side and try and earn another contract.

BUT if you decide to make a big move at the end of this season because - as this topic says “the team is crap, this is not good enough, enough is enough, let’s make some changes to this cack coaching panel we have”, it is ludicrous to make the big sweeping change of sacking everyone (or near enough to everyone) BUT keep the unproven (on the whole), nonperforming senior coach. That we would look at it and go “yeah you’re right guys, it’s a real ■■■■■■ box, let’s surround our boy HIRDY with some better assistants, that’ll fix the problem amirite guys?” is absolutely ludicrous. It would be like deciding to cut the list ultra deep and do a huge rebuild of the list around Steinberg and Melksham.

Again, replace one, maybe 2 if there’s a really good assistant coach available or we feel it’s necessary to move someone on. I don’t think the hypothetical “sack everyone” is worth discussing because it’s no chance of happening. But someone (forgive me I can’t recall who) mentioned that we should sack and replace every assistant coach and keep Hird. If we did that that would be the point at which this club truly jumps the shark.

Not sacked, contract not renewed… There is a difference. Hird would be sacked with 1 year left on his contract. I’d be surprised if assistant coaches have the same deal.

I just realised that if we do move Hird on we are odds on that Skipworth is the next senior coach